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Are people in your state or country getting tired of the government finally? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 days ago by lunatique@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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No not tired of Trump or Biden but the whole government. The incompetence overall. Please don't harp on one of the presidents all day. BOTH SUCK. In fact if you look real hard you'll realize all of them sucked

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[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I have friends who've been to Russia, and I'm also European and not American so this is way closer to home than you'd like to imagine. I understand that there are plenty of Russians who don't want this, my friends who went there met many great people. But their country is at this moment at war with a sovereign nation for no other reason than imperialism. Ukraine didn't choose this war, but got invaded anyway. Many innocent people have to die because of the actions of Putin and his regime. When I say Russia I mean their government, and the actions of their country as a whole. They're taking land that doesn't belong ot them and causing a lot of unnecessary death and destruction in the process. Should the western nations just let Ukraine fall? Let their people be subjected to a total autocracy instead of the flawed but functional democracy that they were living under?

[–] lunatique@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

ent people have to die because of the actions of Putin and his regime. When I say Russia I mean their government, and the actions of their country as a whole. They

Fair enough. But as a European who has UK, French, Ukrainian, etc invading parts of Africa still can talk the way you are. Look up niger, mali even Somalia. They have the west attacking them and supporting terror groups. The governments even speak out against it on NEWS channels right on TV. So you can't be a hypocrite about it.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 points 39 minutes ago

I'm unaware of our governments invading Africa right now, so I'll have to inform myself there. I definitely also don't agree with past invasions done by western countries under dubious circumstances like Iraq or the colonial times. The west definitely had its fair share of deplorabele behavior in the past (and potentially the future) and it's alright to criticise that.

But we should also absolutely defend our borders and our democracy, as well as other sovereign states like Ukraine. Defensively Europe has been asleep, and when Ukraine was invaded we were kinda caught napping. It sucks that so much money needs to be invested in war instead of good things, but democracy is worth defending. At the same time we obviously also need to make sure that there's still a democracy and freedom worth the protect with all those far-right idiots around. Our democracies definitely aren't perfect, but they're kinda the best we have.