1 sure looks like him activating a shock collar because he doesn't want her allowed to do anything other than sit in one designated spot while he's doing his stream
The kind with a power indicator light? A lot of electronic devices have them so you can easily tell with a glance whether it needs to be recharged or not, and a GPS tracking collar with a dead battery isn't very useful so that would make a whole lot more sense than your entirely baseless hypothesis
Why would it need to be an AirTag in a little pocket designed for it (which, I agree with Hasan's subreddit, that looks like what the white circle is) and also a GPS module which is a big solid box with a battery and a light for the battery indicator? What logic could possibly exist for having both of those things attached to the same dog?
Is it possible for a dewclaw that's clearly visible facing the camera to get "clipped" on a platform frame that is behind the leg it is attached to, on the other side?
What do you think Hasan was going to say, to complete the "Go ba--" statement that he cut himself short on and modified to "Stop!"? What is one possibility for what the rest of that statement could be, and what could he be trying to tell the dog to do?
What behavior do you think he might have wanted her to "Stop!"?
I'm not asking what the explanation for any of these events is. I'm just asking what one potential possible innocent explanation for any of them could be.
Of course, you're committed to the bit at this point, so I fully expect that you will do a Karoline Leavitt and redirect away from answering these reasonable questions, or pretend these are crazy things to speculate about and it makes no sense, or just loftily indicate that the time for discussion is past. Go on, knock yourself out.
You have no idea what device(s) are attached to that collar, any assertion to the contrary is bullshit. Even if it were a shock collar those are fairly common in dog training, most people who aren't PETA-type nutjobs would not consider their responsible use to be inherently abusive
Both paws have dewclaws, they don't face the same direction, fucking duh, and I can plainly see the dog climbing into the bed in a way where it could get one caught on the fabric
It sounds like he's annoyed at the dog and scolded it, which happens and is not in any way indicative of abuse. I work remote and I've got a 2yo german shepherd who likes to interrupt my client calls by harassing the cats or climbing into my lap or galloping loudly into the room, occasionally I have to raise my voice and make her go lay down even though she clearly would prefer not to. It wouldn't surprise me at all if his dog were similarly in time-out for shenanigans that occured prior to this very short clip, perfectly normal non-abuse explanation for why he would be annoyed and why the dog would be expected to stay on the bed at least temporarily.
Lol @ "committed to the bit" coming from you, projecting so hard you're gonna burn the screen babe. You're clearly looking for any excuse you can find to discredit Hasan, and you're gonna have to do a lot better than this. For all I know he may be a fucking serial killer but I haven't seen any proof of it yet, calling this video evidence of animal abuse is only going to damage what little credibility you might have.
Your dog training technique is that the dog is in "time out" for 6-8 hours of streaming and has to stay on her little platform? Because of some unrelated misbehavior off stream?
You don't want to speculate about what the device next to the AirTag could potentially be. Because who can say, even? Lots of little devices have little flashing lights on them. It is a mystery. Yes, very Karoline, much Leavitt.
Your boy's a POS. I have no strong preexisting opinions about the guy beyond a vague general positive alignment with his politics, but having now heard his "defenders" try to talk about how he definitely didn't shock that dog that we all clearly saw him shock because he wanted her to stay on the platform, I have come to the conclusion that whatever he's pushing must definitely not be a good thing. I hope God has a mean sense of humor, that's all I can say about it.
If you want to step through the video one frame at a time to see the position of both paws (left one standing meaning the dewclaw's not in contact with anything, and right one with a shadow clearly indicating the separation between her leg and the metal-not-fabric bar next to it, and also the dewclaw pretty visible I think as a little dark spot on the back side of her leg), you're welcome to. I started to step through with mpv and grab the specific frames, but I got too annoyed to even continue with it. If you do wind up doing that, make sure you step forward 30 more frames so you can see her heartbreakingly submissive posture, tail down, head crouched low, looking at the ground, and Hasan whipped around in his chair yelling "Stop!" at her.
You do not have evidence of 6-8 hours, you have a 56 second clip.
You want to speculate because it's the best you've got, rather than being honest and admitting you don't have any evidence you're more than happy to make shit up
"I have no strong preexisting opinions" lol not believable in the slightest, do better
The clip posted here claims 4 hours, and I'm seeing multiple clearly visible cuts during which we have absolutely no idea what he or the dog are doing or how much time elapses and absolutely no acknowledgement of that from the poster or any of the commenters or you, not helping your credibility
The kind with a power indicator light? A lot of electronic devices have them so you can easily tell with a glance whether it needs to be recharged or not, and a GPS tracking collar with a dead battery isn't very useful so that would make a whole lot more sense than your entirely baseless hypothesis
Sounds good.
I'm not asking what the explanation for any of these events is. I'm just asking what one potential possible innocent explanation for any of them could be.
Of course, you're committed to the bit at this point, so I fully expect that you will do a Karoline Leavitt and redirect away from answering these reasonable questions, or pretend these are crazy things to speculate about and it makes no sense, or just loftily indicate that the time for discussion is past. Go on, knock yourself out.
You have no idea what device(s) are attached to that collar, any assertion to the contrary is bullshit. Even if it were a shock collar those are fairly common in dog training, most people who aren't PETA-type nutjobs would not consider their responsible use to be inherently abusive
Both paws have dewclaws, they don't face the same direction, fucking duh, and I can plainly see the dog climbing into the bed in a way where it could get one caught on the fabric
It sounds like he's annoyed at the dog and scolded it, which happens and is not in any way indicative of abuse. I work remote and I've got a 2yo german shepherd who likes to interrupt my client calls by harassing the cats or climbing into my lap or galloping loudly into the room, occasionally I have to raise my voice and make her go lay down even though she clearly would prefer not to. It wouldn't surprise me at all if his dog were similarly in time-out for shenanigans that occured prior to this very short clip, perfectly normal non-abuse explanation for why he would be annoyed and why the dog would be expected to stay on the bed at least temporarily.
Lol @ "committed to the bit" coming from you, projecting so hard you're gonna burn the screen babe. You're clearly looking for any excuse you can find to discredit Hasan, and you're gonna have to do a lot better than this. For all I know he may be a fucking serial killer but I haven't seen any proof of it yet, calling this video evidence of animal abuse is only going to damage what little credibility you might have.
Your dog training technique is that the dog is in "time out" for 6-8 hours of streaming and has to stay on her little platform? Because of some unrelated misbehavior off stream?
You don't want to speculate about what the device next to the AirTag could potentially be. Because who can say, even? Lots of little devices have little flashing lights on them. It is a mystery. Yes, very Karoline, much Leavitt.
Your boy's a POS. I have no strong preexisting opinions about the guy beyond a vague general positive alignment with his politics, but having now heard his "defenders" try to talk about how he definitely didn't shock that dog that we all clearly saw him shock because he wanted her to stay on the platform, I have come to the conclusion that whatever he's pushing must definitely not be a good thing. I hope God has a mean sense of humor, that's all I can say about it.
If you want to step through the video one frame at a time to see the position of both paws (left one standing meaning the dewclaw's not in contact with anything, and right one with a shadow clearly indicating the separation between her leg and the metal-not-fabric bar next to it, and also the dewclaw pretty visible I think as a little dark spot on the back side of her leg), you're welcome to. I started to step through with mpv and grab the specific frames, but I got too annoyed to even continue with it. If you do wind up doing that, make sure you step forward 30 more frames so you can see her heartbreakingly submissive posture, tail down, head crouched low, looking at the ground, and Hasan whipped around in his chair yelling "Stop!" at her.
You do not have evidence of 6-8 hours, you have a 56 second clip.
You want to speculate because it's the best you've got, rather than being honest and admitting you don't have any evidence you're more than happy to make shit up
"I have no strong preexisting opinions" lol not believable in the slightest, do better
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1o1cber/kayas_positioning_throughout_the_entirety_of_her/
The clip posted here claims 4 hours, and I'm seeing multiple clearly visible cuts during which we have absolutely no idea what he or the dog are doing or how much time elapses and absolutely no acknowledgement of that from the poster or any of the commenters or you, not helping your credibility