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Trolls & bots fail to understand or accept that Russia is anything but infinite and inevitable - but numbers are numbers. They've spent half of their entire Soviet inheritance to steal what they sit on today. The war doesn't end when they get to zero vehicles. The half they've squandered is surely the BETTER half, and they still need an army for territorial defense and internal repression. Ukraine is not about the break, and this is probably the best position Russia is ever going to be in. This is the endgame of this messy, abusive Divorce, and Pootz has to come up with some whopper lies to say it was all worthwhile.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

and this is probably the best position Russia is ever going to be in.

I would disagree. They were even better off when they had Kharkiv and all of Kherson. Now Russia has lost all of Kharkiv and more the entire western half of Kherson.

[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee 11 points 21 hours ago

I interpreted this as "the Russia will not be anytime in the future in a position better than its current one."

(Also, I think the Russia will always be a bit too slow to understand how much its situation is deteriorated, in order to understand it should already fold. It might reduce its demands, but most likely never enough.)

[–] TwinkleToes@lemmy.ca 6 points 21 hours ago

sure. but I don't think Ukraine is much in a negotiating mood to give away things that Russia can't even hold. That's not even the laws of war. You get what you can hold. If you can't hold it, then you never really had it.