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1 sure looks like him activating a shock collar because he doesn't want her allowed to do anything other than sit in one designated spot while he's doing his stream

2 is self-explanatory

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I do not "come from" any community. I saw this on Reddit's /r/all, this is the second time I have watched or cared about Hasan Piker (the first was when he was saying something about the CIA/Mossad definitely being behind some world event, I don't even remember the details).

The emphasis that the pro-Hasan people are putting onto "if you are 'attacking' this tribe's person you must be from this other tribe!" is very weird. At least you're not trying to use it as a defense of Hasan as some others are. Anyway, I've seen as much of the substance behind it as I really want to see at this point.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

People are assuming that because Hasan and everyone even tangentially associated with him have been targeted by aggressive smear campaigns from multiple different online communities relentlessly ever since he began advocating for Palestine. There are entire channels dedicated exclusively to engagement bait slop content targeting Hasan, most of whom got their start doing the same thing targeting high-profile liberal politicians. The kind with bright yellow text and O-face thumbnails. You've been taken in by rage bait created by people who have made a career out of it.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You’ve been taken in by rage bait created by people who have made a career out of it.

Sounds to me like you've been taken in by creator-knob-slobber parasocial excuse making.

I'm fine with the theory that he's being "targeted" because of his political stance, I'm sure he's under a microscope because of it. But I am in no way saying this particular sin he is guilty of just because a lot of shouty people are accusing him of it. I watched the video, I watched his reaction, I watched what his stans here and on Reddit were saying in his defense, and I can say in my opinion the pro-Hasan contingent is unhinged to this cult-like degree about it.

It's not hard when someone tell you your dog's collar is too tight to say, "Oh shit! Yeah, let me loosen that." It's not hard when your dog randomly yelps in pain to say "Hey girl what happened, what's wrong?" (even accepting the to-me-very-unlikely theory that it wasn't because he shocked her). The dude just looks like a POS in all these clips, and in general I am further disgusted by the whole "she clipped herself" and then today "oh actually I have no idea what happened" and the way he approaches criticism... which, actually, is exactly the same way you and all the other stans here have been approaching it today: To claim it's a big conspiracy and he has tons of enemies and completely deflect away from talking about the factual concern, acknowledge that someone could have a legitimate reason to be upset based on what they saw. To be fair he did that last thing today... after FORTY FIVE MINUTES of whining about what a big conspiracy it is and how all his enemies are stupid and all just ganging up on him on Reddit.

I have no idea who "Destiny" is. I have never seen Ethan Klein or H3. All these communities that people are accusing me of obviously coming from, is just reinforcing to me that they picked up on this walking logical fallacy's official marching orders about what to think about this issue, to make it tribal so that they can stop engaging with the evidence and just decide it's an enemy tribe at work to destroy them.

None of the factual explanations are consistent. It's an airtag collar and you're a total idiot, except now it's a vibration collar and you're a total idiot, but he doesn't vibrate her anyway, and anyway shock collars don't even hurt, it's like ants. Bro wtf.

I keep trying to disengage from this discussion and people keep messaging me, and I keep wanting to say something back and spending more time on it because it's so cut and dried. Sure, maybe I am wrong. This is just my read from literally just opening my eyes and watching the clips. I very regularly watch clips about things like this and decide "bro wtf, that is completely innocent IDK what these people are smoking" and in general just strongly dislike streamer drama. My assessment here is that he's a POS though. That is my feeling.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I fully acknowledge that I could be wrong about this and will admit it if that turns out to be the case, but the evidence I have seen so far is not convincing to me. I'm only a casual viewer of Hasan's content, watching the occasional YouTube clip of his streams, but I also watch some streamers who are close friends with him far more frequently, especially Maya. Maya runs an animal sanctuary and cares deeply for animals, and has been close friends with Hasan for years, close enough that I don't think that Hasan could be abusing his dog routinely without her knowing about it.

I admit that I'm defensive, but that is because - as you've acknowledged - it is true that Hasan and those associated with him have been targeted for his staunchly pro-Palestinian stance, and I care far more about this cause than I do any media personality. It is also true that the very same people are responsible for blowing up this controversy (you would not have even heard about it otherwise, not being a viewer of Hasan or any of those associated) and have even posted edited clips from 8 years ago making it sound like Hasan admitted to buying a shock collar when he was actually saying the exact opposite, following the same playbook that they have in the past in their attempts to discredit him.

Now, is it possible these people have struck gold and finally found a legitimate cause for criticism? Sure, but anyone familiar with what has been going on has good reason to be extraordinarily skeptical of the claims being made. I will say again, these people have made a career out of targeting Hasan, with nearly all of their content in the past year being about him and his friends. By now they are experts in clipping out of context and making small edits to make Hasan look bad, and one could be forgiven for getting a bad impression of him from casually glimpsing their output. It is easy to be misled when you are only seeing a small part of a bigger picture.

I will wait for more conclusive evidence before I believe that Hasan abused his dog.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago

have even posted edited clips from 8 years ago making it sound like Hasan admitted to buying a shock collar when he was actually saying the exact opposite, following the same playbook that they have in the past in their attempts to discredit him.

See, this is a pretty good example: I 100% agree with you here, and just told someone so who was trying to use that clip against him. That's my MO. I see something, I try hard to step back and see it for what it is and then decide how to judge the actions accordingly. I don't just kind of buy into whatever crap shows up on my internet that day (or I try not to, although definitely sometimes I get taken, I like to think it is rare.) Same goes if it's Hasan or Bernie Sanders or Kamala Harris or my brother-in-law. There is a time when "loyalty to the cause" needs to factor into it, but that's like a dire circumstance. Like I would never pretend that MLK didn't cheat on his wife or Thomas Jefferson didn't own slaves, or that Biden didn't enable a genocide just because I wanted his team to win the election. I don't think anyone in Palestine is going to be helped by pretending to see things differently than how I see them on this dog issue. Generally speaking I think truth is almost always better.

For one thing, I don't think it helps Hasan for people to be in hero worship mode. Everyone needs to be called out on their bullshit sometimes, because everyone is bullshit at least part of the time. It's part of being human. If people exist for too long in that space where no one's allowed to call them out, they start to go real off the rails and just think that they're God and everyone else is stupid.

Like I say I may have a blinkered picture of the guy, I fully agree with you about certain negative things about him probably getting played up because of his politics. Fair enough. I can make an effort in the future to catch him on some random stream, to get a fair sampling, but IDK how that translates into all this deflection and weirdness about this particular factual matter that is on display all over this comments thread.