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1 sure looks like him activating a shock collar because he doesn't want her allowed to do anything other than sit in one designated spot while he's doing his stream

2 is self-explanatory

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[–] procapra@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm convinced it likely happened because he was fucking with the collar on stream right after it was brought up and it takes 20 seconds to fix? What the hell kinda question is that?

The reason people respond to you in this way is because the first places this was posted about was in the H3 and Destiny reddit communities, and those communities are known to not be very fond of hasan, and are known to waste their time looking for any tiny bit of wrong doing.

This will be the end of me engaging in this conversation.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The reason people respond to you in this way is because the first places this was posted about were in the H3 and Destiny reddit communities

Again, this just isn't how I reason. It's very bizarre to me. Generally the source of the information is pretty irrelevant unless it's already someone I trust a lot. I look into it, if it makes sense to me, then I start to take it on, but it's not like "this one is my tribe! Right all the time!" or "This one is the haters! Wrong all the time!" It's all just people talking on the internet, and you have to scrutinize the actual information.

To me it seems like normal people (here and on reddit /r/all) having a pretty alarmed reaction to seeing these clips, and then Hasan stans relentlessly finding any random reason they possibly can to try to say it's not a big deal. It's an airtag collar obviously you moron, and also Hasan said it's a vibration collar, and she clipped her dewclaw obviously, or he doesn't actually know what happened anymore because he wasn't looking, but she hurt herself somehow but that's not important, anyway she was wearing a vibration collar, but that doesn't matter because he didn't vibrate her anyway, and anyway shock collars aren't a big deal, they're just like ants crawling on your skin, and anyway this is what all those Hasan haters always say and you're obviously one of them, because you have this bad thing to say.

It's just a bunch of nonsense. It literally just sounds like Fox News talking heads trying to justify something Trump did.

[–] procapra@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The world exists outside of 1min clips. Investigating a topic is more than watching a 1min clip and making a knee jerk assessment.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I watched the original clips, I followed a link to a YouTube full stream of his because someone linked to it making a particular argument, I kept watching more of that one for context, I looked at some screenshots, downloaded some of the videos and did frame-by-frame looking at them to see if particular things people were saying were plausible, I skimmed through about an hour of his new stream today where he gives his side of the story, and I looked up some products to see if I could identify the actual model of collar (I could not, I didn't try very hard). I think that's all I did.

Interestingly enough, yesterday the things people were saying were factual things that could at least be subjected to that kind of digging (and I generally found that the things the "anti" group were saying were at least plausible, and the things the Hasan stans were saying were usually impossible or self-contradictory, or just based on wild assumptions like "he probably fixed the collar after the video ended, source: it is known"). That actually formed a lot of why I decided that I'm definitely not on Team Hasan as far as this particular issue. Today, people unanimously switched over to simply saying it was a big conspiracy by enemies of Hasan, and accusing me of being in league with some streamer or other who I have barely heard of. That actually happened right after Hasan spent 45 minutes saying the exact same thing on his stream, interestingly enough. I have no idea whether that is cause and effect, but that's how it happened.

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I watched the original clips, I followed a link to a YouTube full stream of his because someone linked to it making a particular argument, I kept watching more of that one for context, I looked at some screenshots, downloaded some of the videos and did frame-by-frame looking at them to see if particular things people were saying were plausible, I skimmed through about an hour of his new stream today where he gives his side of the story, and I looked up some products to see if I could identify the actual model of collar (I could not, I didn't try very hard). I think that's all I did.

What a strange behavior. Don't you have something better to do than investigating this?
Feels like manufactured outrage from the fascist side of streaming when the same people are advocating for political violence or genocide.
Do you feel the same about these subjects? Or did you just see "dog" and fell into the trap?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

"How dare you spend minimal effort on this important topic!"

Actually I took it pretty seriously and dug into it a bit

"How dare you spend too much effort on this unimportant topic!"

lol