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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

AT is fashtech. This needs a proper writeup I realise, but it ticks too many boxes in theory and practice. I don't welcome this style of openwashing, where it's COMPLETELY OPEN except in all practice. Like, you could say the same about Urbit.

[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 3 points 12 hours ago

@dgerard

(raises hand)

I propose that Urbit heretofore be referred to as Norbit, as in the terrible movie.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 3 points 19 hours ago

You know what, that's fair enough. I was talking about a pretty narrow definition of openwashing, but obviously something just being libre software doesn't make it good.