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I get it. Younger demographic, new audience. Star Trek is no longer made for me. I understand that, and I get it.
But...
Regardless of who it's made for, regardless of who the target audience is, there came a point in Star Trek history (ahem...2009) when they stopped making somthing designed to be "Star Trek" and starting making "X...with a Star Trek Theme applied on top".
That's why SNW was (at least until the latest season), a breath of fresh air; because it dared to be a "Star Trek...with a Star Trek Theme applied on top."
Hell...Discovery tried to be "EVERYTHING ABOVE...with a Star Trek Theme applied on top" depending on the season.
I get it. Chase the audience. But it's maddening.
This comes across as gatekeeping…
— from the perspective of someone who’s been watching Trek since the 1960s and has seen the same old ‘ahem, not Trek, it’s stealing from …’ chestnuts since TAS was announced, I am alway surprised how little older fans recognize that Trek has ALWAYS adapted other media (movies, television, radio plays, Shakespeare!) into its episodes.
Sigh.
Yeah when someone complains that Discovery redesigned the Klingons but won't complain about TNG redesigning the Klingons then you can know that they don't actually have strong opinions about the concept of a redesign.
I agree. These folks have no perspective or are dishonest with themselves.
I can acknowledge that it can be jarring, and it can take time to accept a major visual design update.
I felt that in 1979 as I sat in the theatre watching Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
I had no heads up whatsoever that the Klingon design had changed. I was completely confused in the opening scenes with the Klingons. I couldn’t figure out what species they were.
But I got over it. Quickly.
I still think TMP is disappointing, long boring movie that rehashes the Nomad plot from TOS. The Klingon redesign wasn’t its problem though.
Well said, except that TMP is pure cinema and you sir are worse than Khan Singh.
We can disagree on that.
I will never love TMP but I will never claim it’s not Star Trek.