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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Historically the biggest problem with revolutions is what happens after. It's very common for people with some form of power to use the opportunity of a revolution to step in and take over after the previous government is destabilized, which usually results in even worse corruption and abuse of authority. Revolutionaries often don't plan very well for how to actually run a country post-revolution.

The US revolution is an exceptional case study. I think it's very important to recognize that the people who led that revolution spent a lot of time planning how to actually run a government that was not a monarchy. There were a lot of meetings, literally people (OK all white men, which created a host of follow-on problems, but that's another story) sitting around talking about government operation for hours, days, months, before they agreed on the Articles of Confederation, and then in a few years they realized they fucked it up and they needed to start over. Then they had years more debate about government bureaucracy before finalizing the Constitution. How many people do you know, personally, today, who have that kind of patience and obsessiveness about the minutiae of government structure, to sit and talk about it for days at a time? Do you even have the attention span to read this entire wall of text? How about the Federalist Papers?

Also, those people had a rare context:

  1. Once they kicked the monarchists out, they were the most powerful people around, with the most guns, land, money, and public support. They didn't have to worry about other competing interests, only each other.
  2. They had protection from a more powerful nation (France) that really didn't care what they did with their new country so long as they weren't paying taxes to the British crown anymore.

They functionally existed in a shielded bubble that provided years to get their shit together, with room to restart after failure. Few other revolutions have had that kind of opportunity.

The point being, if you want to actually create a better society you have to plan for it extensively, and you need the time and space and resources to actually implement it, and you had better be thinking about that before the revolution. If you don't have the passion for building a better world, if your primary interest is just in tearing down the existing one, then your priorities are fucked and the world would be better off if you didn't start. You're just angry and angsty, you want violence and destruction, you don't actually care about the consequences or the well-being of other people.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

Hear, hear! Government is indeed genuinely hard even if you go in with good intentions, have at least some qualifications and don't need to fight off counterrevolutionairies and external enemies all the time, and untreated depression (or whatever other mental illness one might have) would be very detrimental every step of the way.