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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Harris supporters will do anything but admit she was a bad candidate, and the reason she was a bad candidate was she ran a horrible campaign that was tone deaf and it's talking points were alien to the average working-class voter.

Democrats did this same idoitic crap in 2004, and in 2016. And act like Obama was some sort of political genius... he wasn't. He just gave speeches and ran a campaign that gave people something to give a shit about. Unlike Kerry, Clinton, and Harris. Biden lacked charisma, but nostalgia factor and his appeal to lifelong appeal working-class americans, which obama capitalized on.

Democrats need to stop being so stupid and arrogant. But it seems most of the party are entrenched out of touch idiots.

[–] h3ll3rsh4nks@ani.social 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I both think she was a bad candidate AND blame apathic voters. Regardless of how bad a candidate she was we could all see the writing on the wall of where we would end up if Donnie got in and they still decided to stay home. Protesting by not voting is like proving guns kill people by playing Russian roulette.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

voters are apathetic by default. you have to give them something to care about. Donnie gave them something to care about, so they voted for him.

[–] h3ll3rsh4nks@ani.social 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The problem is people would rather complain when the bad things that were obviously going to happen come to pass rather than swallow their pride and go against their morals. The number of people I know that chose to stay home on the Gaza issue alone is mind boggling. Dems had plenty to care about after seeing the first Trump term and decided they had enough wiggle room to do some moral grandstanding. They chose poorly.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I can't relate directly to Gaza non-voters. But I remember the first woman's march during 2017, and I asked several people who went if they voted. about 3/5 said no. Apparently protesting/marching but not voting is how you win elections in these people's minds.

[–] h3ll3rsh4nks@ani.social 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sadly it seems APPEARING to care is more important than actually protecting our country. I guess they have a lot in common with the majority of elected democratic politicians. Maybe people will have a wake up call after this but I'm not hopeful. I will however keep hoping AND striving for a better future.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

yep. 100%. they legit don't give a fuck, but everything they do is about appearing to care. it's deeply cynical approach to politics. actual polciy and law making don't matter, lip service to the cause du jour is everything

i don't think it was this bad 10-20 years ago. social media hypercharged that reality is nothing more than appearances and truth and substance have zero value. and the populace laps it up like candy.