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Kamala Harris appears to blame ‘people not voting’ for 2024 loss to Trump as book tour gets off to rocky start (www.independent.co.uk)

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The democrats snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

It was their apathy that allowed Trump to go unpunished. It was their decision to run Biden again, breaking a promise and preventing democratic primaries to find the best candidate. It was their decision to muzzle Walz. It was Kamela's decision to nuzzle up to conservatives in hope of getting their votes. It was their call whether or not to investigate Trump and Elon for fixing the polls.

Trump is a horrible person and politician. However, his sheer aggressiveness comes off as more genuine than the fairweather triangulation that the Democratic leadership loves so much.

We need dedicated progressives, not halfhearted centrists. People who give a damn.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"People didn't want to vote for me" isn't the defence you think it is

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Harris supporters will do anything but admit she was a bad candidate, and the reason she was a bad candidate was she ran a horrible campaign that was tone deaf and it's talking points were alien to the average working-class voter.

Democrats did this same idoitic crap in 2004, and in 2016. And act like Obama was some sort of political genius... he wasn't. He just gave speeches and ran a campaign that gave people something to give a shit about. Unlike Kerry, Clinton, and Harris. Biden lacked charisma, but nostalgia factor and his appeal to lifelong appeal working-class americans, which obama capitalized on.

Democrats need to stop being so stupid and arrogant. But it seems most of the party are entrenched out of touch idiots.

[–] h3ll3rsh4nks@ani.social 5 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I both think she was a bad candidate AND blame apathic voters. Regardless of how bad a candidate she was we could all see the writing on the wall of where we would end up if Donnie got in and they still decided to stay home. Protesting by not voting is like proving guns kill people by playing Russian roulette.

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Kamala should have primaried. She was not who democrats wanted. We are sick to fucking death of democrats constantly sliding to the right to offer concessions. Start shutting shit down, throw tantrums, filibuster the fuck outta things. Its all MAGA understands.

[–] DivineDev@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The success of Mamdani in New York shows people appreciate someone who strongly opposes conservative policies instead of cozying op to them. Sure, New York isn't the entire US but I really think someone like him has better chances then the "let's just keep the status quo" politicians like Harris and Biden.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Yes, and what happened there? The democrats went crazy ... because they are all mostly repackaged republicans.

[–] compostgoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Maybe, just maybe, the Democrats will someday realize that political parties are supposed to stand for something other than “what are you gonna do, vote Republican?”

If people didn’t vote for you, it’s because you didn’t appeal to them. Don’t blame the voters for not liking the shitty options presented. Actually represent the people, not the donors and consultants, and you might get some traction.

[–] Homescool@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Good to see this take without 100 down votes.

Dems offered zero leadership, just an anti-Trump.

Dems need an actual leader.

[–] mika_mika@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This is lemmy and you better blame the voters that were empathetic to Palestinians undergoing genocide or else. >:(

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[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Only thing that came across from Kamala's campaign was that she being not Donald Trump is the only reason to vote for her.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

I think all she had to do was denounce the Israeli genocide and let voters know she was going to stand up to Israel.

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[–] PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The person who never won a primary is complaining about low voter turnout in a general election. Now THAT’S fucking rich!

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm convinced she was picked because DNC leadership is on Trump's payroll.

Never even came close to winning a primary but overnight she's "our gal," yeah fucking right.

It was so shameless too, the reddit botting must have been like half of her campaign funds. She had those idiots so gaslit they thought it was going to be a landslide in her favor.

We're cooked because Democrat leadership is just controlled opposition.

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago (43 children)

I hate to say it, but she's right. Trump was very clear about his plans. Anyone paying attention knew what was going to happen. Any sane person with a pulse would have won the election if the public wasn't so apathetic, ignorant, and/or misinformed.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 51 points 5 days ago (5 children)

if the public wasn't so apathetic, ignorant, and/or misinformed.

I don't think all of the apathy is inherent. Some of that's on her and the democratic party demoralizing their constituents. Yes, following game theory it is in their best interest to vote for the lesser evil and against the greater evil. I am politically active and I get that, so I voted.

Regardless, it still bothers me that a not insignificant portion of the Democratic party also knows this and takes advantage of this by coasting and doing the bare minimum. They seem more willing to spend their resources countering internal threats from progressives. It's not easy to stay motivated to support a party openly hostile to your own values.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of them would rather have a fascist opponent. Then voting comes down to, basically, vote for me because the alternative is fascism. How dare you question my policies (or lack thereof) or my soft stance our ally's obvious genocide? I'm your only hope. Vote for me or else.

It only works for so long, then apathy takes over.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you can't inspire people to vote for you the problem is you. I don't know why she thinks that's a good defense.

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[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 49 points 5 days ago

Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 50 points 5 days ago

She's talking up Hillary's mantle, and that woman couldn't put a sock in it for 40 years, while also thinking she was clever for getting Don on the ballot, nevermind worshipping at the altar of Kissenger.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 42 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (24 children)

I'm so fucking tired of that spin.

It's like a restaurant owner who offered a crappy menu of poorly cooked food that nobody wanted in the first place blaming the restaurant's failure on the people who refused to eat there.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (25 children)

she's not wrong.

around 30% of Americans refused or failed to vote in the 2024 election. had they voted, we would probably be seeing Trump and his gaggle of shitbirds thrown in jail.

"oh Israel!" stfu. nobody actually believes that bullshit anymore. it's clearly been worse under Trump, fuckbrains.

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 17 points 4 days ago

fucking book tour. of course.

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