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cross-posted from: https://ibbit.at/post/81808

...the agents had demanded to ride along in the ambulance en route to the hospital. The driver replied that without arrest paperwork, they were not permitted to ride along. Agents continued to insist that the vehicle would not be allowed to leave until an officer was permitted to accompany them.

“I repeated again,” the driver said in their report, “that no officer is permitted to ride in the ambulance and that they can meet us at the hospital and that we needed to be let out of the facility. Officers then began walking away from me whenever I spoke. At that point, a group of 5-8 civilian-dressed men walked into the garage and just stared at me. No identification on any of them. I walked back to the ambulance and got into the driver’s seat. I flipped the emergency lights on and put the car into drive. I inched forward slowly out of the garage.”

A man described as being in civilian clothes and a neck-wrap then stepped in front of the vehicle and ordered the ambulance not to leave, according to the report. As more agents amassed about 15 feet in front of the vehicle, the driver assumed they were preparing to escort the ambulance off the property and continued to slowly inch the vehicle forward. But agents continued to obstruct the ambulance’s path. As of 9:39, a dispatch report said there were “50-60 fed agents completely blocking the road.”

At this point, the crew member in the passenger’s seat exited the vehicle to attempt to reason with the officers. After putting the vehicle into park, the driver began to exit as well. They said that as they opened the side door, “I looked up and suddenly the entire group of officers… were crowded around the open car door, some of them leaning forward towards me, inches from my face.”

The driver recalls that an agent “pointed his finger at me in a threatening manner and began viciously yelling in my face, stating, ‘DON’T YOU EVER DO THAT AGAIN, I WILL SHOOT YOU, I WILL ARREST YOU RIGHT NOW.”

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

qualified immunity.

means they 100% allowed to whatever shit they want.

if it has never been done before, then due to lack of precedent they didn't know it was illegal. and therefore no legal punishment

and if they do it again, due to precedent they have to use the punishment they used last time (no punishment)

it's dumb, but that is how the system works in this shithole

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

http://web.archive.org/web/20230520080201/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html

QI is illegal according to the law as written and as passed, not as illegally amended.

I don't blame the 1982 SCOTUS. I don't think they had any reasonable suspicion that the congressional record and federal register don't match.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, SCOTUS knew exactly what it was doing with QI. Don't fool yourself... After all, why should government workers be rewarded by ignorance of the law when that doesn't apply to anyone else? It doesn't even pass the 5-second test.

even worse, how come the people who's job is to enforce the law, get to claim ignorance of it?

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

every time I explain it. I still doubt that, no system could be so stupid.

but it is.

if it was in a comedy it would be too stupid to be accepted by the audience. yet here we are

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Literally even the producers would be like, "thats way too unbelievable and uncreative"