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Since basically all data is now contaminated, there’s no way to get massive amounts of clean data for training the next generation of LLMs. This should make it harder to develop them beyond the current level. If an LLMs wasn’t smart enough for you yet, there’s a pretty good chance that it won’t be in a long time.
Didn't Elon breathlessly explain how the plan was to have Grok rewrite and expand on the current corpus of knowledge so that the next Grok could be trained on that "superior" dataset, which would forever rid it of the wokeness?
It started calling itself MechaHitler after the first pass, so I'd be interested to see how less woke it could get training itself on that.
trying to train it to be only a NAZI-LLM is difficult eventhough he lobotomized it a couple times.
It was a really entertaining moment in history to see grok showing up elon & co despite their clear attempts to make it conform to their world view.
The common colloquialism is that objective reality has a liberal bias. So either you train your LLM on "woke" science and facts, or it spits out garbage nonsense that is obviously wrong to even the typical twitter user.
That’s just musk talk. I’ll ignore the hype and decide based on the results instead.
law of diminishing returns, LLM train thier data on AI slop of LLM, that is trained other llm, all the way down to "normal human written slop"
A lot of LLMs now use intentionally synthesized, or AI generated training data. It doesn't seem to affect them too adversely.
Interesting. In other models that was a serous problem.
People will find a way somehow
Oh I’m sure there is a way. We’ve already grabbed the low hanging fruit, but the next one is a lot higher. It’s there, but it requires some clever trickery and effort.