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Some interesting stuff here, including links to more studies showing similar results in different countries.

The summary is that the reason motorists break more laws is that speeding is so common.

I don't think this is because motorists are all evil and cyclists are all saints. Probably, the reason motorists break speed limits is that it can be relatively difficult to keep cars below the speed limit. It's all too easy to absentmindedly speed up. It's also, perhaps becuase of this, widely seen as socially acceptable to break the speed limit (speaking anecdotally).

One interesting thing here, which may not surprise regular readers of Fuck Cars, is that better cycling infrastructure leads to less lawbreaking by cyclists. As is often the case, it's the design of roads and cities that changes behaviour, not abstract appeals to road users to be sensible!

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[-] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

You're no more dangerous cycling at 3kph than you are wheeling your bike at 3kph, but one of those things is illegal if you do it over a stop line, regardless of anything else you do once you're over the stop line. That's the absurdity.

[-] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I say make them both illegal so the rules are more predictable and easy to understand.

[-] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net -2 points 1 year ago

Also, make it illegal to be outside. Too much mad shit going on out there.

[-] NotYourSocialWorker@feddit.nu 2 points 1 year ago

The difference is that one will force you to actually stop, if even for just a moment. That can give you enough time to actually see oncoming traffic.

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