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[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 45 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I honestly dont know what would drive a Windows refugee to choose such a niche and likely unable to support them distro.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is ZorinOS niche? It's Ubuntu with a Windows ricing.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can we stop saying "ricing"? It's racist af for literally no reason.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

is it not an acronym or something?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No, it comes from people "souping up" (hopefully I don't find out that's also racist somehow lol) cheap Japanese cars that they called "rice burners".

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The origins of the term undeniably are racist, yes, and I was also surprised that those using it weren't largely aware of the fact.

But it's also true that meanings unavoidably change over time, and the intent of what you say is also important.

The person you responded to isn't wrong - there's now a popular acronym people are using which is Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancement

And yes it's a backronym. The pejorative term came first, and the acronym later, but it's certainly part of redefining and reclaiming the term to free it from its origins.

Like it or not, I think the term is very much here to stay.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Words change meaning, sure, but it doesn't mean we need to keep using it here.

Also, let's not fool ourselves into thinking they made it into a bacroynm for any reason beyond wanting to continue using a racist term but now with plausible deniability.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Trying to hide the use of a racist term because you're a racist is one thing, but people wanting to use terms they feel apply to them is another.

In the automotive context, the term meant something like "Putting loads of pointless mods on your 'shitty' Japanese car that makes it look even uglier and doesn't make it go any faster." - and in that context it was unambiguously a slur, disparaging the Asian import scene in favour of the 'superior' western aesthetic and way of doing things.

But even in the automotive context, people can reclaim the term and say effectively "Yes - my car is 'riced out' - that's the aesthetic I want, and I'm proud of it."

In some ways it's quite appropriate that this term would extend from Japanese cars into tricking out your operating system. Given the number of waifu wallpapers you see in screenshots, 'ricing' has quite a lot of overlap with anime aesthetic, geek cuture and 'weebs' (which is another term that was used as an insult, and now reclaimed by people who proudly describe themselves as such). People who have historically been looked down upon by most of society but internally wear their 'weebdom' as a badge of pride.

It's hardly an insult when you are the one saying it about yourself, and doing so proudly.

In the theming a GUI sense, a lot of folks also choose anime inspired themes. So.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I mean one of the most important pieces of software we always mention when converting users from Windows is called GIMP, I think "ricing" isn't nearly the most concerning term in the libre software world.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

GIMP isn't a bacronym, it is an acronym.

Also, my understanding of BDSM indicates that gimps consent to their position.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

GIMP isn’t a bacronym, it is an acronym.

Doesn't matter for the point at hand.

my understanding of BDSM

Gimp is a very pejorative term for a person with a limp.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

I forgot it was ever used that way.

Fair enough

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I had no idea about the origin.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Japanese people would trick out their cars to look cool.

We call this ricing because Japan/Rice.

I think the term today is completely unrelated to the original meaning and has no racial ties but some right leaning people always want to be offended.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's why it's only ~70k downloads. Probably many more for Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Manjaro, Bazzite and so on.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I really with EndeavorOS or Garuda would replace Manjaro on that list.

[–] bear_delune@beehaw.org 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think Zorin is a pretty solid choice for people with no Linux experience tbh.

It’s at least going to feel familiar

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They charge extra for theming that people could get themselves for free. I don’t like that it’s taking advantage of vulnerable people.

[–] bear_delune@beehaw.org 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think that’s “taking advantage of vulnerable people”

The options still exist for people to learn and theming is incredibly inconsequential.

They’re monetising to support development in a minimally impactful way, that is completely optional, and I think that’s a good thing.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They should advertise that everything is free and can be installed after installation if you choose not say $80 gets you a Windows like desktop and software replacements that will save you thousands (Blender/Xournal++/OfficeSuite)

[–] bear_delune@beehaw.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The value proposition is ease of use and integration of these theming utilities.

I honestly think this monetisation strategy of theirs is a non-issue.

People who want a streamlined experience have the option of paying for that, people who want the option of doing it all themselves have that opportunity too.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My problem is them not communicating that.

[–] bear_delune@beehaw.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not communicating that there are alternatives to their services?

I don’t really think it’s their responsibility to spoon feed alternatives to their customers; they’re not being anticompetitive, they’re not being deceptive, they’re not blocking alternatives.

I think your requirements here are unfair and kind of irrational

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That the stuff included is free and installable on it’s own.

[–] bear_delune@beehaw.org 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So what’s your issue then? Zorin has a free version that people can opt for if they want

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That they aren’t communicating it.

[–] bear_delune@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why do you believe they need to?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because I believe not doing so is exploiting people that don’t know better.

If it wasn’t then there wouldn’t be a problem with being upfront about it.

[–] bear_delune@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago

Okay, I guess I simply disagree that it’s their responsibility to tell other people there are alternatives to their service and I don’t think any other software vendor is beholden to such a requirement either.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] bear_delune@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

And people are free to use mint if they want