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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by the16bitgamer@programming.dev to c/3dprinting@lemmy.world

I made a 3d printable eReader case for my wife. Wanted to test what would happen if we water logged them and left them in the sun to dry.

Two of the cases are made from PLA while the other is made from PETG. They are all held together by thread and leather.

The test here is to see if moving from PLA to PETG was the right move since the last time I did this, the case turned into a banana.

My eventual plan once I've finished with my testing is to sell these cases and make their designs available for others to print.

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[-] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, PLA creeps ridiculously fast in hot conditions it is unsuitable for use in any environment over 35C tbh.

PETG is better but will still warp/fade over time if it's exposed to the sun, and likely need replacing.

You need to be printing in ABS or ideally ASA if you want all-weather resistant cases. Which means now your printer needs an enclosure and ventilation...

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

I printed a sprinkler to stick on the end of my watering can out of PLA.

Its been outside in all weather, including direct sunlight, for three years now. And water runs through it almost every day for 8 months of the year. It's a little faded, but that's it.

IMO the things people say about PLA regarding exposure are vastly over stated.

[-] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

It can survive fine when under no load. It probably fades color less than abs does actually. However When experiencing any kind of mechanical load - say, a tablet squeezing at the edges for a friction fit - it fails rapidly at elevated temperatures.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yup, and any interior vehicle parts I’ve done that have any loads have yielded after any kind of sunny week or so.

Massively oversized parts can last a bit longer, but they just have very low creep temperatures.

[-] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

That's exactly how I know. Made some very nice interior car parts and experimented with the 3 plastics. PLA failed in a day, PETG made it a week before it sagged too much to be usable, but ABS is still going.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I haven’t bitten the bullet and tried abs yet, mostly because I’m not ready to setup ventilation and better temp control.

Asa seems to be another option, but I’ve been having too much fun printing TPU parts to bother.

[-] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

ahhh, TPU is addictive isn't it. So squishy and flexy. I've even made gaskets out of it for an ATV- not good ones, because it fails to seal when too cold, but gaskets that still work nonetheless.

[-] radau@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

I don't think your particular case would have any creep as it's not mechanically leveraged in any real way.

If you were to print something like a cupholder for a stroller or bike where it's holding something up with some weight while in the heat is where you would notice it especially with repeated impact. Most likely wouldn't outright fail but under constant load you would notice it starting to bend a little. That said you can absolutely over engineer it to prevent that rather than switching materials which can be a huge pain depending on the printer.

I did my hydroponic tower in PETG but it honestly would've been ok in PLA since it's just a static fixture. I've had a PLA badge on my car for 3 years in 110+ summers and similar to you I've only noticed fading on the raised white lettering.

[-] the16bitgamer@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

I think it depends on the usage. If the size/shape doesn't matter or is mated to metal, then PLA is more than fine in colder climates (i.e. not Texas), but as soon as the average temp of it's operating environment is within the Glass Temp range then PLA isn't good.

In your sprinkler's case, the water is chilling it bellow glass temp when operating.

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