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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Do Balrogs have wings according to JRR Tolkein?

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Okay. First off, why would a creature that lives exclusively under a mountain have wings? Second, I'm now invested in this controversy I and want to know more.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

They didn't start under the mountain. They are, effectively, the same creatures as the wizards but corrupted. What makes the scene epic is that Gandalf was facing his match.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, my naive friend. This is a rabbit hole that doesn't end, one might call it a balroghole.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 3 points 17 hours ago

Now I'm even more invested. And I've absolutely taken sides.

[–] yngmnwntr@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

10 minute video? Shit that's barely scratching the surface. There are dissertations out there arguing both sides. I don't think anyone has settled the matter.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 2 points 17 hours ago

What dissertations? Setting aside interpretation, were there factual errors in that video? I've read the books. I've now seen the video. The controversy seems to center mostly on a failure of reading comprehension and an ignorance of both literary devices and various uses of the word fly (which is particularly ironic given a certain exclamation made especially popular by the movies).

Now for my controversial take: This "controversy" is pretty emblematic of the many ways the films distorted and mutilated Tolkien's stories and characters.