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Thief vs. AAA Gaming (www.youtube.com)

I thought this was a really intriguing video essay on how the old Thief games from decades ago stack up against more modern (at the time, anyway, the video is nearly 10 years old itself!) AAA Games.

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[-] Atheran@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Can't see the video right now, but considering the old thief games are some of my favorite games ever, I don't think I'd disagree much. Still haven't found a better stealth game, 23 years later. Deus ex can come real close in terms of quality stealth if you play ghost, but while encouraged, it's not the point of the game.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

I tried my darnest to stealth Deus Ex, and while I did have fun, the stealth system and options in that game are simply far too undeveloped to get the most out of that playstyle.

However, I recently tried re-playing it with the Revision mod, and hooo boy does that do wonders for stealth! No more NPC's running around in panic after being shot with tranq dart, reliable blackjacks, mantling... A thief fan's dream come true.

[-] Atheran@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Never heard of that mod. For Deus Ex? I should give it a try.

As for thief, I always loved playing the fan missions, still have about 20gb of them on my hard drive. But if you haven't tried it, I suggest you play The Dark Mod. I used to make assets for them back in 2011-2012. It has some exceptional missions and good mechanics for a fan game.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Never heard of that mod. For Deus Ex? I should give it a try.

Yeah! It's like a complete overhaul, new textures, models, music (done really well), combat, even the maps are drastically changed. It's a great way to experience it on a second playthrough.

I suggest you play The Dark Mod.

I've always wanted to get into TDM, but something would always come up whenever I gave it a try. I did do a couple missions, including one that was based on a moving train which was awesome, but I really need to sit down someday and properly play it. The fact you made assets for it is so cool! If you happen to know any missions that used your assets, I'll be sure to try those first when I finally get around to playing it. ^^

[-] Atheran@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's been a decade. And I made general assets like couches, tables, cloth simulations etc. I have no idea which missions used them since. But I can vouch for Springheel's, Bikerdude's, Grayman's and Obsttorte's missions. At least the ones before 2012. Haven't played it since, I should do it soon. But from the ones I know for a fact, Grayman and Dragofer used them often in his missions. And the latter made a pass on my old stuff a couple of years ago to fix/update them. And did an awesome job at it.

It was a great team to work with, especially Springheel, he had a lot of patience with me having to learn the tools they used and spamming him with questions. :)

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