Sanguinea Orange happy in the summer humidity (lemmy.world)

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[-] AlecStewart1st@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It sits in water so it's always wet.

I use tap water but it's from a well so It might be a bit overly mineral. I can try and deionize it.

Ah well I'd start with the first thing. Nepenthes aren't bog plants, they don't like sitting in water. They like they're medium moist. So I'd dump the water out of the tray it's in and only pour water in the try when the medium starts feeling like it's about to dry out.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I thought they were big plants and had to sit in water ? I'll get the water out then. It floats on top of water if that makes sense

[-] AlecStewart1st@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No they don't prefer sitting in water. From the RedLeaf Exotics site:

Nepenthes like being kept moist, not wet. Think of a moist sponge. They appreciate a well draining potting mix and dislike standing in water constantly. They should never be allowed to completely dry out. You can keep them in saucers of water indoors, but they must be allowed to evaporate in between waterings.

And from Carnivero:

Nepenthes like to remain moist but not flooded. This is best accomplished by top watering them 2-3 times per week. The shallow tray method can be used when going out of town. Fill the tray with about 1” of water and then allow the tray to dry out for a couple days before refilling.

Just to give you info from some professional and reputable nepenthes growers!

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oops meant bog plants. Mine is a pitcher plant. Is that the same thing ? So I should let it dry out and then water it ? I haven't watered it at all since I've had it. I just let it float on a body of water.

I'll change that up now. Thanks for advice

[-] AlecStewart1st@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Bog plants are more like Sarracenia (American pitcher plants), some Drosera (sundews) and Dionaea muscipula (venus fly traps). They're plants that like more wet soils and don't want it to dry out, and, obviously, their native habitats are bogs.

Nepenthes, or tropical pitcher plants, are tropical plants. Some species grow on the sides of cliff faces or more in the mountains of tropical areas. They like wet air more than wet soil.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh mine is Sarracenia. I think it must be the American pitcher plant. Looks very similar but with smaller pitchers. So it is a bog plant

[-] AlecStewart1st@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

If your plant looks similar to this or this then yea then that's an entirely different plant genus than nepenthes and it'll do fine wetter conditions. I would still like the water in the tray get soaked up before filling it again, just make sure the medium doesn't get dry.

Are you growing this indoors or outdoors?

Also, if it's winter then keep in mind sarracenia are perennial, meaning they go dormant starting in the mid-late fall and all through winter.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately looks like neither of those. Really annoying you can't send photos. It's a nepenthes Diana.

It was winter and I assumed it would drop all it's pitchers and go dormant. However its leaves are also a bit brown.

I've had it inside the whole time. I got it to try kill of some flies. Thought it would be a nice non toxic alternative. So I was hoping to propagate it and leave it in all the rooms to drop the fly population.

I'm New Zealand so just coming into spring now.

[-] AlecStewart1st@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's a nepenthes Diana.

Ah yes! That's a great little hybrid. This plant, no?

It was winter and I assumed it would drop all it's pitchers and go dormant. However its leaves are also a bit brown.

In cooler times in nature they don't go dormant, they just make less pitchers.

Here's my suggestions

Let the medium get almost dry between waterings

When it does, fill up the tray and let the water be absorbed or evaporated.

Move it to an east facing window, or outside during spring

Maybe it needs more light. New Zealand has a fairly tropical climate IIRC so outdoors in the spring might be a great idea. Here's an interesting read about light.

If you tap water has a PPM above 50, repot

I don't think you'll have to do this as looking at your governments legislation the water is a lot better than some parts of America.

Here's another guide to repotting from a reputable grower. They even have suggestions of when to repot.

Other than that Nepenthes 'Diana' is a pretty vigorous and hardy hybrid.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes that's the very one. Didn't know it was a hybrid,

It's not happy. Pitchers have all shriveled up. It's pretty cold below freezing over night. So I was expecting if it was a bog plant to drop it's pitchers but its leaves have been damaged. Bits of brown and discoloration.

It floats currently. My set up is it's still in it's original container and I float it in another tub. But I'll take it out and try drying it a bit.

I'll sit it outside and see if it gets happier. It probably needs more light. So I'll give it some more.

Yeah we use well water so I might try to deionize it.

[-] SallyTAB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm so thankful @AlecStewart1st@lemmy.world got hold of this to help answer questions for you. Everything you were told is 100% the perfect advice.

If you want to know more of my setup - I have a single 10w SANSI bulb about a foot away and on for 12 hours a day, also the plant is in an east facing window. I have the nursery-style pot on top of some glass "rocks" in a drainage tray, and water twice a week using the "sponge" rule. The tray of glass "rocks" keeps the Nep from sitting in water. My apartment ranges from 30% humidity in the winter to about 70%+ in summer. I live in the Northeastern US near the coast, so that helps a bit. You can see my setup here:

https://media.mas.to/masto-public/media_attachments/files/110/364/330/298/164/709/original/c86c271ebee68023.png

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Tremendous. I posted over on carnivorous so you get a pic. I'll try the glass rock idea. Do you water from the top then ? I've just let it float on a body of water so it soaks up water continuously.

Does it need a heat lamp ? I think my humidity my be an issue. Currently it's 40% it will get higher but might need to get something to cover it if it needs more.

Minerals shouldn't be too much of an issue. We are on bore water so nothing added to it. I was going to try deionize it if it required

[-] SallyTAB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't run a heat lamp, but I keep mine inside, nearish a window, and it never gets below 60F in my house (so about 15.5C). I water mine from the top, when I see water start to form in the rocks under it, I stop. I do that twice a week based on that "sponge" rule.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ok I'll give that a bash. Assuming it's easy enough to Google the sponge rule. It's currently 24c with sun. So I'll see if I can get it a good soak. Not sure what it needs.

[-] SallyTAB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Here you go! "Nepenthes like being kept moist, not wet. Think of a moist sponge. They appreciate a well draining potting mix and dislike standing in water constantly. They should never be allowed to completely dry out. You can keep them in saucers of water indoors, but they must be allowed to evaporate in between waterings." - https://redleafexotics.com/pages/nepenthes-care-guide. I think it was mentioned further up the thread as well with some other good tips from @AlecStewart1st@lemmy.world

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