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I heard someone said that, at the end EV will cost you almost the same as gasoline vehicle, if you have to change the expensive battery every so often. Can someone please give me more info on this? Thank you so much.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Still way cheaper even if you replace the battery when recommended (7 years ish)

Add in the minimal to zero auto maintenance and your EV just keeps getting cheaper every time Tucker's bronco needs an oil change and filter.

[-] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Last time I took my EV in for service the guy just told me to come back in 6 months. Truly hilarious.

No spark plugs, oil changes, no transmission fluid, nothing to leak. No air filter or fuel filter or vacuum hoses or plug wires or whatever they are going to try and sell you.

Plus, fewer brake jobs because of regenerative braking.

I miss a manual transmission but I don't think I'll ever go back to gas.

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My dream would be an 80s M3 with an electric engine swap. There are electric motors you can just bolt in front of the transmission as a direct replacement for a gasoline engine. I've heard most people just put the transmission in 3rd gear and leave it there, but I bet it would be crazy fun to take off from green lights in 2nd and go through the gears while accelerating. Having the best of both worlds imo

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly. The sheer convenience of owning an electric vehicle vs a rattle-trap changed the game for me.

[-] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 10 points 1 year ago

Which vehicles or manufacturers specifically suggest replacing a battery at 7 years?

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Specifically seven? Idk. Do you want me to look that up for you?

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago

Specifically seven? Idk. Do you want me to look that up for you?

[-] 18107@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I have not heard of any manufacturer recomending a battery replacement. If you can find any sources I would love to read them.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's weird, it's very common to replace ev batteries as they age because they tend to lose capacity depending on how they're used.

Maybe if you've only used gasoline vehicles up until this point you would not have heard about replacing batteries? Although gasoline car still have batteries which have to be replaced often. EVs just have much bigger batteries than the car batteries you're used to, if that makes it more relatable.

Delfast recommends ten years max, Nissan recommends 8, most ev batteries lose a significant portion or more(easily 30% ) of capacity before a decade is up, just google any ev company for their company's recommendation and then weigh that against real world usage and replacement statistics.

[-] 18107@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting. I guess my 2011 Nissan Leaf would be an outlier then. It's lost some range, but I think it will keep working for me for at least another 10 years.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

That sounds standard. EV batteries can reliably work for 15-20 years depending on how much and how aggressively you drive, how well the batteries were built, how the batteries are recharged, but the effective capacity goes down every year as a matter of the nature of rapidly discharged,/recharged batteries as they're currently built.

Battery tech is improving rapidly, but we're nowhere near 100% storage/discharge/recharge efficiency yet that would be more gentle on the chemical and physical makeup of the battery.

Tesla claims their batteries last the life of the car, but they define the life of the car as 160k miles OR 8 years of warranty on their batteries, whichever comes first because batteries just don't last as long as we'd like them to yet.

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