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Female surgeons sexually assaulted while operating
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Not sure why it keeps being framed as “versus” like it’s some sort of competition and it doesn’t mean both sexes get sexually harassed and that’s not fucking okay for either.
That's a fundamental misunderstanding of scientific/mathematical language used in statistical studies.
Considering the title of the study is “Sexual harassment, sexual assault and rape by colleagues in the surgical workforce, and how women and men are living different realities: observational study using NHS population-derived weights”, I feel like the stress on the ratio is intentional.
I wonder if you also write this, but with genders reversed, under every report and article about "lonely men" or "men dying by suicide".
Link me one article about men’s problems with depression that dismisses women’s problems like this one does and I can tell you my opinion.
?? Ok, that's easy. This one for example: https://www.beyondblue.org.au/who-does-it-affect/men/what-causes-anxiety-and-depression-in-men/men-in-rural-and-remote-areas
That’s not even an article. That’s a support page, in a support site, under the “men” section. Obviously they don’t mention women, like in support pages for women they don’t mention men.
And I’m not that great at using Kbin, but it seems to me the most upvoted article on that community is this one. From that article:
That seems like pretty supportive for an article that should be on the same level of one that states “male and female surgeons live different realities” in the face of 1/4th of them having reported sexual harassment.
So your actual problem is the title of the article??
Than what about these: https://www.happiness.com/magazine/health-body/male-loneliness-time-bomb-killing-men/
https://hive.rochesterregional.org/mens-health/men-loneliness-friends
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2023/02/03/male-friendship-lonely-close-friends-men/11162423002/
The title is indeed a problem since it would’ve cost them nothing to just remove “female” and have a gender-neutral one, but again, the issue is how dismissive it is towards men who suffered the same harassment they’re denouncing.
Those three pages have pretty much nothing close to that, and again they’re not really supposed to be unbiased articles: the first one is on a site for some sort of online course (I think?), the second is on a hospital’s site (and under the “Men’s Health” section), and while the third seems to be an actual news site, the article is very clearly just meant to promote that guy’s movie.
Closest to what annoyed me would be this paragraph from the first one:
Which also gives off a similar vibe of “yeah one woman out of four doesn’t have a best friend, but who cares about that”, and that’s definitely not ok, but it’s different to see that in a sketchy website compared to literally bbc.com. They’re both examples of unprofessional journalism, but I don’t think the ones at “happiness.com” are even meant to be journalists.
https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/how-loneliness-is-killing-men
Sciencefocus from the BBC
Still not the BBC itself, but it's definitely more reputable and should probably not be glossing over female friendships declining as well. The linked article is also a bit too much focused on men, which is weird because the original one, on the same site and by the same author, seems to be much more gender-neutral.
So yes, I think that's wrong too. Would I write a comment complaining about that if I saw it in a post? Not sure, being a male I'm probably biased and notice discrimination against men more than one against women. But if someone commented on it pointing out how that "men's social circles are shrinking" should've been just titled "social circles are shrinking", I would definitely agree.
Source for stats
https://academic.oup.com/bjs/advance-article/doi/10.1093/bjs/znad242/7264733?searchresult=1