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[-] BaskinRobbins@sh.itjust.works 194 points 1 year ago

Charging per install has to be the most out of touch insane choices they could have made.

[-] kaitco@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago

There is zero rationality behind the decision, especially given that it’s retroactive and there’s no language in their decision that handles unique user versus multiple users versus multiple accounts.

I’ve had two gaming PCs over the last ten years. On my last one, I replaced the hard drive twice, and I’m on my second hard drive on the newest one. With each hard drive replacement, I’ve had to reinstall all my games. I’m not paying for all of them again with each install but just getting the same files off Steam and installing again. According to this decision, the devs of these games would have had to pay Unity four extra times just due to my hardware upgrades. How is that on the developer at all, and Lord help us if Unity tries to run some BS where players have to pay for each new installation.

The entire gaming industry, even from the “disc era”, doesn’t work with a cost per install model.

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 year ago

They actually explicitly stated as such:

Q: If a user reinstalls/redownloads a game / changes their hardware, will that count as multiple installs?

A: Yes. The creator will need to pay for all future installs. The reason is that Unity doesn’t receive end-player information, just aggregate data.

[-] Grass@geddit.social 15 points 1 year ago

Doesn't steam let you download games you purchased that have since been removed? Will they try to bill developers still in this case?

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah. You theoretically can financially DDOS a developer.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Curious if they would charge once install was completed or once install commences.

If I try to install a game and for whatever reason it fails, and I have to try again, would they charge for two installs?

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Probally an api call that goes out to Unity once you start a game and the engine comes online.

Im sure they would love to charge devs the instant we click a download link though.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

An API call that could be faked. Easily.

Imagine a bot network that screws over a developer because of fake installer API calls.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Imagine that bot only targets games developed in house and fucks the assholes back.

[-] cantsurf@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Who knew software development involved so much anal sex?

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

Bye, Unity! It's nice to know you've gone evil, so that even if you backpedal on this, we'll know never to trust you again..

On the upside, you think this will end the epidemic of worthless asset flips?

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One hour before that Q&A went live:

PM: Hey Steve! Yes, you from development! How can the, uh, that runtime of yours, tell if it's a new install or a reinstall?
S: As of right now it can't, we just have aggregate data. We'd need to update it to support that. We have an item on the backlog already if you –
PM: No need! I have all the information I need!

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