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"[Heather MacLean, an Olympic 1,500-meter runner] realized her watch was draining the fun from her runs. It was especially apparent to her during a low-key stretch when she was simply trying to build fitness.

I hated that every run I went on, I felt like I had to check my pace and my distance and whatever else,” she said. “So I just decided that I was going to lay off it for a while and switch to a regular watch.”

She never went back. MacLean, 28, who now wears an Armitron Dragonfly that she said she picked up for $10 at Walmart, acknowledged that there were certain workouts when a GPS watch would come in handy, like when she did a tempo run by herself. (Tempo runs are faster than easy jogs, and frequently run at a prescribed pace.) But Mark Coogan, her coach, has long prioritized effort over pace, and MacLean logs her training in minutes rather than in miles.

“I know I’m at the elite level now, so not everything is going to be joyful,” MacLean said. “But when there are things that bring me a lot of joy, I’m going to invest in them. And one of those things is the ability to avoid focusing on my pace during my runs.”

Without the pressure of feeling as if she needs to account for every mile — or, perish the thought, post her workouts for public inspection on Strava, the exercise-tracking platform — MacLean has also gotten better about listening to her body. She has no qualms about bailing on an extra workout if she is feeling beat.

“And I’ll tell Mark that I’m going for a walk instead,” MacLean said. “And he’s like, ‘OK!’”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/16/sports/gps-watches-professional-runners.html?unlocked_article_code=GVDhDMsA9gjchKt2W4QjTwSM2VxC23YP7ZSRi-lUn1B5OwlIumJwgRzZxmQz8o6Edm_7pQBv20ecwzndCmSqQqv_pfCvBIMlR7aAM8sSKp5Gqh-kaUyzAP3tjQ2Dc5T7V3YrtH6-SZMcvMjXwhCl-uYizHqLTsCgPo8M0131zR4zD0iV6wXqNQxoUaYqqwzrFppVOXjTxtWHsa3lqIhwzwkmPC8xHBLvqrLjr3-I_lUXhyLt1vtOplb4_Fy_ziYTOACY1HQhNbqVK2OpnJny38ZpZTer5TFasTB2RNvTQw5qdb9aFoMtPSBx2uVBjzpUdt43zlKQQuYNTipurMJGei49JsIJvSZlPw&smid=url-share

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[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I use pre-programmed pace times for my runs, and my watch complains at me when I go above or below that bracket.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Interesting. I've seen the option for that on mine but I've never used it. How well does it work? I don't really even trust mine to tell me my "current" pace, preferring to rely on lap average and automatically lapping each kilometre. Does the pace guide work well?

The other obvious worry is hills. If I've got a target pace in training, I usually am not thinking about hills in that, and I'd be happy to slow down while ascending them, and I'm probably not going to quite make up the difference on the downhill. Is that not a problem you've run into?

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

So, I used TrainAsOne, which builds a dynamic plan that adjusts to your fitness levels etc.

And when it generates a workout, it exports that to my Garmin. So then when I run, the Garmin has a pace range, and it shows my average pace for that leg, updated in real time, in a nice little interface. Green when I'm within the pace band, red when I'm not.

Also, given that it only cares about your average pace for the leg, it also takes in to account your previous runs and assumes you will run something similar in terms of gradient. It also adjusts for expected heat levels etc.

It will be wrong if you move to a location with a radically different gradient profile, but even then, once you've run it, it will take in to account the actual gradient and your pace, so you don't get punished for running slower on gradients

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Oh that's very interesting to hear. I've just signed up for TAO yesterday and I'm excited to try it out.

I must say from what I've seen of it so far, it has some weird deficiencies, like the inability to tell it I want my Sunday run to be the longest one—or even that I definitely want a Sunday run at all. Guess I've just gotta learn to trust the AI's wisdom? Seems to sorta go against the idea that it's about flexibly reacting to your life.

Out of interest, do you have any particular fields it's helpful to display when running a TAO workout?

[-] marvinfreeman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

On Coros watches, there's "effort pace." I think it's very close to "gradient adjusted pace" on some other watches. Both give a pace number adjusted for the grade one is running up or down. On Coros, one can make workout targets using effort pace that adjust for hills.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh that's interesting. I run with a Garmin watch, and it looks like Grade Adjusted Pace is something they only added as of the Forerunner X55 generation of watches. I have a Forerunner 935, so it's not an option for me. But assuming it works well, that's a potentially really useful field to have.

The downside of Garmin's very obvious artificially-short lifespan on their devices by almost never providing software updates with new functionality.

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