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@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes posts a near-perfect analysis of what AI actually is
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Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.
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I’ve got this absolutely massive draft document where I’ve tried to articulate what this person explains in a few sentences. The gradual removal of immediate purpose from products has become deliberate. This combination of conceptual solutions to conceptual problems gives the business a free pass from any kind of distinct accountability. It is a product that has potential to have potential. AI seems to achieve this better than anything ever before. Crypto is good at it but it stumbles at the cash-out point so it has to keep cycling through suckers. AI can just keep chugging along on being “powerful” for everything and nothing in particular, and keep becoming more powerful, without any clear benchmark of progress.
Edit: just uploaded this clip of Ralph Nader in 1971 talking about the frustration of being told of benefits that you can’t really grasp https://youtu.be/CimXZJLW_KI
this is also the marketing for quantum computing. Yes, there is a big money market for quantum computers in 2023. They still can't reliably factor 35.
shit, I forgot about quantum computing. If you don't game, do video production or render 3d models, you're upgrading your computer to keep up with the demands of client-side rendered web apps and the operating system that loads up the same Excel that has existed for 30 years.
Lust for computing power is a great match for AI
i literally upgrade computers in the past decade purely to get ones that can take more RAM because the web now sends 1000 characters of text as a virtual machine written in javascript rather than anything so tawdry as HTML and CSS
the death of server-side templating and the lie of server-side rendering (which practically just ships the same virtual machine to you but with a bunch more shit tacked on that doesn’t do anything) really has done fucked up things to the web
as someone who never really understood The Big Deal With SPAs (aside from, like, google docs or whatever) i'm at least taking solace in the fact that like a decade later people seem to be coming around to the idea that, wait, this actually kind of sucks
the worst part is I really despise this exact thing too, but have also implemented it multiple times across the last few years cause under certain very popular tech stacks you aren’t given any other reasonable choice
this is why my tech stack for personal work has almost no commonality with the tech I get paid to work with
React doesn't have to suck for the user (lemmy is fast) but ...
this is the thing.
6 degrees of transpiler separation.
when your web page is actually an app written in JS, the commercial temptation to load it up with as many trackers as will fit is overwhelming
October 2012 - I still consider this to be one of the most unacknowledged milestones in the enshittification of the web https://web.archive.org/web/20121003000922/http://www.google.com/tagmanager/
Every day, we pay the price for embracing a homophobe's 10-day hack comprising a shittier version of Lisp.
The internet document transfer protocol needs a separation of page and app
The comp.basilisk.faq answers that question!
@fasterandworse@awful.systems @self @trisweb I didn’t know masto picked up lemmy posts like this
@fasterandworse@hci.social @fasterandworse@awful.systems @self Yep, it's all the same protocol. It's pretty weird though; no indication of what platform the post really came from or how it was intended to be viewed. I could see that being useful first-class information for the reader on whatever platform they're reading from.
Trying to remember how I even got this post. Did you boost it from your masto account?
@trisweb @fasterandworse@awful.systems @self yeah I figured the activitypub protocol used some kind of content type definition to control where stuff was appropriately published… I never got around to actually reading the docs.
I have no idea how it came to your feed. I found it because you boosted it!
as an open source federated protocol, ActivityPub and all the apps built on top of it are required to have a layer of jank hiding just under the surface
ActivityPub is a protocol for software to fail to talk to each other
@self has tapped Lemmy with carefully aimed hammers in a few places so that we federate both ways with Mastodon, which has been pretty cool actually
seems to be on circumstances.run, which i'm on. that's treehouse/glitch with authfetch
this reminds me, since nobody has actually documented if lemmy supports authfetch or not, I should dig into the code and find out for myself
sorry yes, i'm not using awful from there but from a local login :-)
i meant that i can read posts from here on there, e.g. https://circumstances.run/@self@awful.systems/111082328987803716
EDIT: maybe I'm wrong, my test comment over there hasn't shown up back here yet
@dgerard @self Oh interesting, so is this Lemmy instance special in this regard?
so not very? If your Mastodon has authfetch enabled then it doesn't work properly. If it does then it does. I'm on circumstances.run which has authfetch on - it receives comments from awful.systems but doesn't seem to pass them back.
@trisweb @self meanwhile on lemmy
@fasterandworse @self Fediverse problems. This could... use improvement. But it's cool that it works!