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[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

In this context, it's matters related to government, politicians, or the general culture of a country, in which there are two or more major camps of conflicting opinions, where a good deal of people in one or more of those camps view the other camp as evil because of their view.

If the post is in a community where only one of the camps is significantly present, but the post is attacking the other camp, it is still political.

Why do you ask? Are you hoping to expose some inconsistency in my definition? Maybe use it to call something I like political with the expectation that I'll disagree with you? Or were you expecting my definition to be biased, calling something political that shouldn't be, so that you could expose me as a moustache-twirling villain?

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

You're pretty upset that I asked a question aren't you? I wonder why that is.

Government and politicians I think are pretty self explanatory and I would agree those are inherently political, no argument there.

What do you think is part of a general culture of a country, or not? How would you define culture that has conflicting opinions? Is it solely up to your discretion, or would you agree that if anyone has any disagreement about a meme that would make it automatically political?

Is this one political because it references the FBI, a governmental organization? https://startrek.website/post/1847371 I would argue that it is political.

Is this one political because it references culture related to advertising in capitalism? I would think everyone should agree that any reference to or commentary of an economic system is inherently political because of course economic systems are controversial. I don't see how anyone could argue that references to a combination of two major brands isn't a commentary on marketing: https://programming.dev/post/3200916

I mean this one references politics so it's clearly political right? https://lemm.ee/post/8502748

I'm just curious about what you and others think is political versus not. You can't have a discussion about if something should or should not be allowed if you can't clearly define the boundaries of that thing. I find the discussion around what is and isn't politics to be an interesting one, that's all.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Not upset, just suspicious because I've seen you asking that question a lot.

Obviously what I consider political is up to my discretion, but I'm pretty sure the general definition does not include contentious memes, and mine doesn't either because I gave a clause about one side considering the other side evil because of it.

In general, if a person asks themselves "is what I'm posting political?" they can answer correctly 95% of the time, and the 5% of edge cases won't upset 95% of the complainers.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

That's an awful lot of words to implicitly say "it's not political if I agree with it"

"If a person asks themselves is this political they can answer correctly 95% of the time."

Yea turns out it's easier to answer a question correctly if you're deciding I'd the answer is right or not.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

That’s an awful lot of words to implicitly say “it’s not political if I agree with it”

Where are you getting that?

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Where you said your test is asking yourself if you thought it was political and saying you were right 95% of the time.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

What I meant was that anyone can ask themselves if it's political, and 95% of the time they'll get it right by the standards of 95% of the people who don't like politics.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ohh so it's at the discretion of people who "don't like politics" if it's political or not.

Dont worry I've seen those "non political" people talk a lot so I know what you mean.

Like how there's two races. White and "political"

So as long as what you post doesn't offend straight white people it isn't political, but if it does then it is.

What a refreshing and original take.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

You're kinda misconstruing what I'm saying a lot.

Everyone has their own threshold for what's political. Some people say everything is political. Some people say it's only political if it relates to conflict between politicians.

I'm saying in 95% of cases, 95% of people can agree on what is and isn't political.

When people complain about political memes, they're usually complaining about blatantly political posts, like ones making fun of the republican party, not memes that happen to feature Black people.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I'm saying in 95% of cases, 95% of people can agree on what is and isn't political.

This is clearly not what you just said before

95% of the time they'll get it right by the standards of 95% of the people who don't like politics.

Unless you are suggesting that something like ~96.95% of the population "doesn't like politics

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