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[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago

I am not an American, so I have to ask: Is AOC really that radical? To me she looks like a left leaning liberal with the most radical idea being MMT. Other then that it is normal talking points of a left leaning politican.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago

any other country would view AOC and Bernie as centrist at best – but our Overton window has shifted so far right that centrist is seen as full-on revolutionary communist …

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 year ago

I honestly thought they were some European style social democrat types, but then I looked up their climate policies and turns out Macron has actually passed more radical climate laws then the two of them are even proposing. It is insane how Americans believe that two politicans would be revolutionary communist, when a former investment banker turned neoliberal politican is more radical then them.

Where does the idea come from Bernie would be seen as a moderate outside of the US? He openly ran as a communist when he was a mayor. His policies are far to the left to any social-democratic party in Europe.

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