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Now everyone must pay for someone else's vandalism.
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this post was submitted on 20 Sep 2023
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I really like this. You can't imagine how horrible every bathroom in my university was and as soon as one is fixed and repaired it get destroyed, and i mean destroyed as in stall doors being broken and sometimes partially or completely ripped , toilets getting beyond clogged and shit smeared everywhere, faucets broken,etc.
But would this policy actually prevent that? A vandal in a community of 100 people would only be charged 1% of the repair fees (assuming they aren't caught), seems like a meaningless disincentive for them.
And forcing community members to self-police or be charged fees is asking for trouble.
Someone ought know who did it. Anonymous tips could work. I don't consider it snitching because the bastard(s) is making it worse for everyone just for some thrill or a dumb dare. Honestly, Fuck them.
Anonymous tips are less than worthless.
The first problem is that anyone who is anonymously tipped on is just going to deny it. And now its the word of a named person vs an anonymous tip. That isn't going to fly.
The next problem is that people will quickly learn to weaponize the anonymous tip process to persecute the people they dislike - regardless of whether the target was even involved in the vandalism.
Policies like these are dumb. They don't discourage the bad behavior (the opposite, actually, perpetrators know that the damage they do will impact far more people, which is the entire point of doing it in the first place, so this policy actually works as an incentive to do more vandalism).
“It was Diabolo96, I saw them do it”
There we go, now I don’t even have to pay the 1% fee.
Ever heard of something called an investigation ?
The thing they're refusing to do by forcing everyone to snitch on themselves? Yeah I've heard of it and when you investigate shit you don't gotta rely on people arbitrarily snitching with 0 evidence just to avoid the bull shit. What's next? Someone gets a DUI on campus and they bill everyone for the damage and take away everyone's licenses?
This is when you set hidden cameras in the hallways and have maintenance check hourly. The second something happens it goes to security footage. Who was in there?
It seriously only takes a couple people to do stuff like that and keep stuff wrecked for everyone.
They only installed cameras like last year but yeah it's the best solution. I think that if they give some jail time to the first POS they caught then it'd scare everyone enough to stop it from ever happening again.
You think you should have had to pay for repairs?
The problem is the "not my problem" mentality. This is a way to mitigate it.
Replacing it with a different problem where vandalism is subsidized and false accusations are incentivized. This won't mitigate the vandalism, it's just gonna be used to hurt people who did nothing wrong.