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As Smartphone Industry Sputters, the iPhone Expands Its Dominance::Apple, which is set to release a new iPhone on Tuesday, has increased its share of smartphone sales by converting Android customers and adding teenagers.

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[-] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 96 points 1 year ago

Unless an iphone becomes literally the only option, I don't see myself ever getting one. I'm deeply morally opposed to their walled-garden approach, and I won't even get one Samsung's Androids for the same reason. It would be nice for me if there was more people like me, but regardless, as long as there's a freer option, I'll be taking it.

[-] zzzzzz@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 year ago

It's too bad Android didn't lean more into it's relative freedom. Instead, almost all Android manufacturers have followed Apple's lead closely. I have to believe there'd be a sizeable market for a flagship Android phone with, say, a removable battery, headphone jack, SD card slot, and an easily unlocked bootloader.

[-] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

They exist, they just aren’t popular because most people don’t care.

[-] zzzzzz@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

They don't exist. Believe me, since I finally put my old LG V20 out to pasture, I've been waiting. The closest thing is the Fairphone, but it doesn't support all US LTE bands.

[-] whitewall@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Aside from maybe the headphone jack, those are all features that enthusiasts want but average consumers don't care about enough to compromise on size, waterproofing or price.

Smartphones depend so much on economies of scale, and a limited pool of cutting edge components, it would be hard to sustain a niche market just for enthusiasts.

[-] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago

Bootloader a are usually pretty easy to unlock, it's Safetynet that is the biggest problem these days. Though you can generally sandbox it a little bit with a custom ROM. If, however, you try to keep it stock and have it rooted with Magisk it can be a nightmare depending on the manufacturer.

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[-] serratur@lemmy.wtf 28 points 1 year ago

Its like picking between different types of cancer, its either walled garden or a privacy nightmare.

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[-] foggy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm just opposed to their brand ethos. They always complicate things in the name of simplicity.

apple mice have 1 button to click, and that this decision was made (in the 80s) because they thought 2 button mice would confuse the average user.

... and now apple users command + click all the time, like that isn't more complicated.

That's not why I hate apple, but it is why I hate apple. They perpetually put the cart before the horse.

"We stopped including a charger in the box to help the environment"

Actually this means more boxes are being created in total and this is worse for the environment. 🤦‍♂️

Edit: God you apple stans are annoying af. I guess y'all are just an extension of their obnoxious ethos lol.

[-] LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Apple Mice have had right click for 14 years, and their trackpads have used two finger click in its place far longer than that. And before that, any two button mouse worked just fine in OS X from 2001 on (earlier if you ran the beta of OS X). So your information is anywhere from two decades to one and a half decades out of date. Well done.

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[-] akafester@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"We stopped including a charger in the box to help the environment"

Actually this means more boxes are being created in total and this is worse for the environment.

How so? That thought only works if you think they still manufacture the same amount of chargers and package them. Which would be pretty dumb given that they aren’t guaranteed a sell. Also, who doesn’t have a bunch of different chargers already?

[-] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Lmao, are you forgetting they also changed the cable from standard usb to lightning to USB c to lightning after they stopped including the brick?

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, because everything is transitioning to USB-C and that’s a good thing. They made that switch when they removed USB A ports from their Macs.

[-] TheCannonball@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They only made the jump to USB-C because they were forced to. They would have loved to stay on their proprietary hardware for as long as possible.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Rumor is they wanted to wait to go portless. In current state Qi chargers work on iPhones but they don’t charge as quickly as their proprietary MagSafe connector which I find ridiculous so I’m glad they had to add a standard port

[-] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

That doesn't invalidate my point at all.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Apple stans gonna stan.

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[-] EddieTee77@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago

I agree with you and the OP of this thread. I don't want to support a company with a walled garden approach and they over complicate things to be unique

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[-] WiildFiire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What phone did you end up choosing?

[-] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I went with the Motorola G Stylus 5g. It's not perfect, but it does have an SD slot, a headphone jack, FM radio, an easily unlocked bootloader, and a built-in stylus I didn't expect to care about but which I have grown weirdly dependent on. I just wish it had a removable battery.

[-] scottywh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's what I have as well and I quite like it.

It's a very good phone overall in my opinion.

[-] rockandsock@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

How are you liking it? That's at the top of my short list for my next phone? Any major flaws or issues?

[-] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Zero issues for me so far, except the standard complaint about modern phones; it's too darn big.

[-] scottywh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I really like the size but I'm 6'2" and about 260 pounds so I'm a pretty big guy I guess.

Personally, I wouldn't want to go back to a smaller one again though.

[-] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can't think of any particular complaints I have with mine.

Works well...

Okay, I take that back... I wish battery life was a little bit better ...

But, that said, I often spend entirely too much time goofing off on my phone lately and that's certainly not helping.

[-] rockandsock@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I'm the only one I know who uses moto phones so it's nice to hear opinions from people who actually own them.

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