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[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've seen lots of people in the past asking why the Romulans stuck to the treaty after the Federation broke it, many seem to see it as a plothole. But really when you think about the realpolitik/~~geo~~ galactic politics of it, it was a massive win for the Federation.

If the Romulans said "Hey this is bullshit! Our treaty is over!" then the Federation would just say "aight lmao, we'll just use this cloaking tech that's way better than yours. And it can be trivially retrofitted to existing ships, our whole fleet will have this tech."

By flexing that they can make this tech, it made clear to the Romulans that sticking to the treaty was something that was absolutely within their best interest, whereas before they weren't so sure about that. They thought they had a technological upper hand and were being hamstrung by their inability to fully leverage it to crush the Federation.

Bonus: it showed the Klingons that they too shouldn't provoke the Federation too much, nor should they try to destabilise relations between the Federation and the Romulans either, because if that treaty dies, they'd also lose what they thought was an advantage they had as well.

The whole thing was a staggering power-play by the Federation. They fulfilled the Speak softly and carry a big stick mantra perfectly.

[-] DharkStare@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It's such a crazy display on just how advanced the Federation really is that a small group of rogue Star Fleet officers were able to successfully leapfrog the cloaking tech to such a degree. There was another episode where the Romulans tried and failed to create that same technology but I can't remember if it was before or after Pegasus.

In DS9, a Vorta makes a comment about Star Fleet engineers being able to turn rocks into replicators and he really wasn't that far off.

[-] a_random_fox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

The romulan attempt was in S5E24 "The next phase" so it was before "Pegasus" which is in season 7

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

If that phase cloak thing was attached to photon torpedoes it would make them invincible as well since they could phase back beyond enemy shields. Or inside the enemy ship.

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