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[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyways, any one ever tells you they’re Asartu, they’re either the dumbest person on the planet or a Nazi, there are no exceptions.

I mean over here you can't have a blot without splattering blood on ten Antifas but ok bud.

Not getting into its explicit endorsement of chattel slavery and might makes right rules of conquest,

...par for the course for its historical context. I could now go on and talk about the Frankish genocide against the Saxons in the name of Christ but let's just agree that it's currentyear , ok?

or even the human sacrifice,

Sacrificial rites differed a lot between regions. While Swedes probably did sacrifice humans (presumably volunteers) at the same time Icelanders were putting out a pot of porridge.

the only credible source we have of a “Viking funeral,” witnessed and recorded by an Arabic traveler, recounts the gang rape and murder of a slave woman as part of the ritual, and ends with a naked, presumably expendable Kievan Rus man running from the pyre covering his ass so spirits don’t get in it.

Yes because Muslim accounts of pagans are always 110% accurate. Noone back then ever embellished anything, or made stuff up. Also wtf has that to do with anything current.

Go be a druid or a witch or something, damn, at least when they make shit up about dead religions with no actual surviving belief structure

Now if no mythology about the Aesir was left you would have a point. Go read the Edda.

it’s not always a cover for white supremacy.

"always"? Maybe where you are. Like about the worst you can say about the Ásatrúarfélagið without putting your foot in your mouth that they once were quite conservative and e.g. opposed abortion.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Nah you said "dumbest" and now I want to hear your argument as to why neoheathens are dumber than Scientologists.

All mystical seekers are equally stupid in their disregard for reality, but at least Scientology was an original work instead of a fan fict for revisionist fascists.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd say that all ignorers of their subconscious are equally stupid in their disregard for reality. Now what?

Religion is a part of the human psyche, ask Jung, ignore it at your own peril. And, no, building a religion around atrociously bad pulp sci-fi is a much, much worse approach than trying to line yourself up with an older tradition. In the case of Scientology you get a glimpse at Hubbart's neuroses, when reading the Edda you get a glimpse of what generations and generations of Norse shamans and skalds had successfully brought from the (collective/individual) shadow into the light.

You're looking at the whole topic from an almost comically naive perspective.

As to "choose Asatru or modern Satanism or Discordianism or Stoicism or something eclectic or whatnot": There's no wrong religion. There's only religions which might be right or wrong for you (with the caveat that Pastafarianism is a lame joke without any depth). As to "but the original tradition has been lost": So what. Traditions change and are, in any case, not the praying to the ashes but the passing of the fire. Stoke some embers. Listen to Heilung or something like Sunn O))) (headphones! (both)). See if you still have enough chaos in you to give birth to a dancing star, or go on and continue worshipping Greyface.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, you are all equally stupid in that specific regard.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can show you water, I can hand you a cup, I cannot make you realise you're thirsty.

I don't typically drink bleach that idiots think is water because it's a clear liquid.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All that anger. Disappointment, really.

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