672
submitted 1 year ago by American_Jesus@lemm.ee to c/linux@lemmy.ml
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] AKADAP@lemmy.ml 97 points 1 year ago

I absolutely despise the following directories: Documents, Music, Pictures, Public, Templates, Videos. Why? Because applications randomly dump stuff into these directories and fill them with junk files. I don't want any application putting anything into directories I actually use, unless I explicitly tell them to. It is not possible to keep your files organized if applications randomly dump trash files into them.

[-] herr@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

Same shit happens on Windows. Games will just install their shit literally all over OS with no rhyme or reason to it.

Why can't the save game and config.ini just be in the main god damn game directory? Nobody knows.

[-] jasondj@ttrpg.network 23 points 1 year ago

Actual reason is system permissions.

Most the default installation path is Program Files. That needs elevation to write to. Fine when you’re installing something, but not something you want to need just to run the game.

Writing to %APPDATA% or really anywhere in %USERHOME% is guaranteed to have the right permissions for this user.

Granted, a lot of home PCs and gaming PCs are single-user environments. The “personal” computer. In that case there’s no reason games and applications can’t be installed in %LOCALAPPADATA%, and in fact, I think windows has an environment variable or registry setting for that.

It’s no different in Linux. You don’t want users writing to /etc. And you may expect multiple users. So all of that stuff goes to dot files in $HOME.

[-] kariboka@bolha.forum 6 points 1 year ago

Hence dot files

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Granted, a lot of home PCs and gaming PCs are single-user environments. The “personal” computer. In that case there’s no reason games and applications can’t be installed in %LOCALAPPADATA%, and in fact, I think windows has an environment variable or registry setting for that.

I tried setting up my main windows gaming machine with a separate admin and user accounts, and tried to set it up to be multi-user. It didn't work well. Most games worked but some random games had all sorts of bizarre issues, from only being able to run as admin, to requiring messing with directory permissions to just plain strange behavior but working sometimes. Steam also really didn't like if I tried to run games as a different user and got very confused at times by the multiple user accounts

[-] jasondj@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

See, that’s dumb. Just because games aren’t enterprise software, there’s no reason basic security practice like least-privilege shouldn’t apply in development.

[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago

Microsoft OWNS not just gaming companies, but one of the largest gaming hardware companies and many of the largest game developers.

You'd think by now we'd get a dedicated Saves folder to organize this shit after this long.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

My Documents > My Games is kinda the default, but then you have steam cloud syncing and tons of games that default to various Appdata folder seemingly at random.

[-] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

There is, been there since 7. Just hardly any game Devs use it, including Microsoft.

[-] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

C:\Users\Username\Saved Games is a thing. Not a lot of games use it though.

There's also C:\Users\Username\Documents\My Games which seems more popular with some devs. Though some devs inexplicably use the base Documents folder, which is just obnoxious.

But yeah, a lot of devs still use AppData. I read a post from a dev once that explained the advantages and disadvantages to each Directory, though I can't remember the specifics, there is at least logic to why saves get stored in so many odd locations.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

hough some devs inexplicably use the base Documents folder

Shoutout to Anno 1404 which creates no less than 4 directories in the base Documents directory each for slightly different releases for the game that they later rolled into a single release so your user data is strewn across all of them if you bought the most complete release of the game

[-] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I have my own directories on windows. I never use system provided directories for my own stuff, it always sucks. And if I want to move directories between drives or just change permissions, all hell breaks loose because everything depends on the default locations... So I just leave them be if I can.

[-] nayminlwin@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

They're probably trying to handle per user config. But nowadays, there's mostly only one user using a machine.

[-] akash_rawal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I just keep my stuff far away from $HOME and not bother about the junk. Not even a subdirectory under $HOME.

Same goes for ' My documents' on windows.

[-] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

These places are a cesspool of junk in every system, it's incredible. MacOS has this kind of shit too, just like Windows, with apps dumping crap there without a care.

[-] BeeMe@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

This is why I've made a "Filing Cabinet" directory. My stuff goes in there nice and organized, while I ignore the rest.

this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2023
672 points (98.7% liked)

Linux

48186 readers
1184 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS