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this post was submitted on 29 Sep 2023
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Look at Assange and Manning as examples, is that somehow untrue just because your regime is selective with whom they make an example of?
The point is that they can disappear your ass any time they want.
Which escaped the country essentially due to persecution, something that happens to far fewer people then the whole lot. Its not like this is exclusively a US issue as persecution also exists in China as well, as while I dont agree with said religions, tensions with controversial groups like the Falun Gong essentially forced the group to move out of China.
Fundamentially it ends up how the community responds to it. Like in your case, there are civilians fighting against keeping the prisoner held up. Which is in line of whats happening with the AI vehicles of the OP.
Imagine defending cults like Falun Gong. Meanwhile, I've already explained how providing the illusion of being allowed to resist the system is by design. It keeps people like you from realizing how oppressive the system actually is and makes you feel like you have freedoms. A dog that never ventures to the end of its leash doesn't know it's on a leash.
Im not defending them, tbh i hate a lot of their actions,.im just saying they were 100% evicted by their said government due to surveilance. but what your saying doesnt stop the notion that I had originally stated, a lot of civilians are fighting against the said change, in an action that currently only affects 2 regions in the U.S.
Hell the U.S right now is still trying to prosecute actual people that attempted to overthrow the government. Thats shows how reletively little power the federal government has vs a more centralized government in China.
It boils down to the pros and cons of a centralized government. If its centralized, you can do things more efficiently (e.g Chinas inital handling of Covid amd vaccinating its population was great), but it has a lot more power over minority groups and what they can and cant do vs the U.S Federal System which has a limitwd set of powers
I, on the other hand, think that predatory cults should absolutely be evicted by their said government. And it's adorable you think that jan 6 was some real threat to power in US. That stunt will simply be used to justify further slide into fascism and Americans will happily cheer it on too.
So are you arguing police state is good? What are we debating at in the first point then if we think police state is bad with cameras helping cops?
No, I'm arguing that the west is just as much of a police state as China is in every way that matters. However, the difference is that China has a government that represents the majority while the west has governments that represent the oligarchs.