352
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 01 Oct 2023
352 points (89.6% liked)
Asklemmy
44152 readers
855 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- !lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
From my understanding:
Your idea is intriguing. However, let me clarify our assumptions in this context.
The reason we consider our consciousness to be at the top is because we seem to be able to control the abstract processes of our body (including the mind). This can be anything from moving your hands to rejecting a religious belief.
If there is a greater consciousness in our very bodies, I think we would have seen its effect in the physical world by now. Assuming said entity is part of an intelligent organism (supposed to be us but not sure, going by the prompt), or will likely take decisions based on a structure.
I do not know how to answer this question if the higher consciousness exists in the metaphysical realm, since we exist in a 3D world and metaphysics in this case can be subjective.
Cheers
A common definition of consciousness is that it's the fact that there's something it's like to be. It's the ability to have a subjective experience. I think it's a safe assumption that the brain is responsible for the emergence of consciousness, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's located in the brain. It's not really located anywhere. That's kind of like saying that waves are at the surface of the ocean when, in fact, they're indistinguishable from each other. Your entire sense of existence is an appearance in consciousness. The feeling that it's located behind your face is just another wave on the ocean.
I believe it originates from the brain because at the end of the day, consciousness manifests on top of a network of neurons, which is effectively the result of a massive (in terms of complexity) chemical reaction. As a side note: I think the growth of AI will show us quite clearly that throwing compute power behind black boxes (artificial neural networks) will not invoke consciousness.
I say that consciousness is created and held in our brain. What I think you're saying is that consciousness encompasses our entire subjective experience, in which case you'd be correct.
Coming back to the point, when I said that our consciousness is present in the brain, I meant our level of consciousness (going by your definition). I do not know if my liver has a consciousness, but assuming that it does, perhaps it's only really capable enough to latch on to the purpose it is provided with by the inherent automation that our bodies possess?