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[-] trailing9@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Doesn't any country with cooperatives have workplace democracy?

Norway is cheating because they have many natural resources to sell.

[-] Communist@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Yes, they have a tiny, insignificant amount.

An entire country has to have workplace democracy for the country to be socialist.

This is kinda like saying "doesn't any country with a slice of bread have food"

[-] trailing9@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

What would change if every company would be democratic?

[-] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

To begin with, there wouldn't be an unspoken agreement between companies to keep wages as low as they can be because more than half of the companies in that market agree that the best they can do is starvation wages.

[-] Communist@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Y'know how totalitarian regimes are incentivized to be shitholes because of the keys to power problem?

https://invidious.asir.dev/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

at the very least, that goes away. But there's many more other things.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

autistic people could actually get hired

[-] daddyjones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You think a co-op only has a tiny amount of democracy? I think it's the best form of workers owning the means of production - the definition of socialism.

[-] joejoefashosho@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

I believe they meant that worker cooperatives are a small, almost insignificant part of the overall economy in every country that has them. Often co-ops end up serving a small niche market because they really can't compete with the anti-competitive nature of capitalist big business.

[-] Communist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

That's not what I said, my point is that co-ops make up a tiny fraction of a percentage of the economy. If they made up all of it, that would be socialism.

[-] daddyjones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ah - I misunderstood. My mistake.

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