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Support for Third U.S. Political Party Up to 63%
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Now ask those people what the third party's platform should be.
Not right, not left, but a secret third position
What if we just took all the leftist policies that Republican voters say they love in polls, but just replaced their names with new names that Fox News hasn't had a chance to program their viewers on? Instead of Universal Healthcare, we'll call it the American Bodily Integrity Defense Initiative or patriot care or some shit. No, no, it's not high speed rail, it's the Uncle Sam Express. No, no, it's not universal college, it's the "Beating China By Investing in Education Strategic Defense Initiative". Etc.
That might help black folks, so it won't work.
Maybe name it something racist? The Jim Crow Comprehensive Medical Reform Package.
The humor is definitely appreciated 😂
The political realities unfortunately are that a lot of our systems are not designed as lassiez-faire capitalist ideological manifestations but socialist for a white anglo-saxon colonizer nation (one might say, national-socialist) which often implies delegating the discrimination through proxies like corporate employment or residence in neighborhoods of a certain character.
Realistically there are 3 major groupings already:
The problem is the corporate centrists would and often do ally with the Unrepentant Nazis when the owners bribe them both and give them their marching orders on economic policy.
The supposed "voice of sanity" corporate centrists would literally rather have Nazi Germany than universal healthcare or a UBI. It's a better outcome for corporate profitability.
Neoliberals dislike Republicans, but both they and Republicans loathe leftists/progressives. Probably because neoliberals and Republicans have had a quiet agreement since Reagan to bicker on social issues but do what they're bribed to do on economic policy, while progressives understand our current, rigged economic structure to be the root cause of most of our many crises.
Neolibs and Repubs just want to play fight about social wedges while they drink from that unlimited gravy train plugged directly into their PACs. They both consider it their higher duty to undermine any economic extremists trying to legislate a more equitable society. That's the opposite of what the owners that pay any willing federal Democrat or Republican to play ball want.
A quote I think about a lot is one by Susan Sontag, and I think it maps pretty well to what you've laid out (just obviously not in that same order!). "10 percent of any population is cruel, no matter what, and 10 percent is merciful, no matter what, and the remaining 80 percent can be moved in either direction.”
You said "Democrats" twice.
Edit: man, I can't figure out who this pissed off- people who don't know progressives and corporate centrists are in the Democratic party, or Republicans.
Pretty sure you got downvotes for explaining something obvious...
That's what I get for thinking someone set up a joke and trying to deliver the punchline 😅
Something that is not "too extreme" - something that strikes a compromise with fascists that want to kill fellow citizens for merely existing (gays, trans, POC, etc.) or disagreeing with them and people that support the Constitution and civil rights and institutional norms. Because that second group is just so extreme.
I like the idea of Schrödinger's party. It's either hard left or hard right but, like a mystery prize on a shitty gameshow, you won't find out until after the votes are placed.
Does this country even have any hard left politicians?
There's "that man". Can't think of any others.
cornel west is running for office now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position
Do people think "third party" literally means one and only one additional party? Or am I getting wooshed
In case anyone does think that... It does not
How about a data driven platform determined solely by what gets at least 65% majority support in two or more national polls?
Given political preferences tend to fall along a normal distribution curve, rather than drawing a line in the middle and catering to two parties necessarily based by the split toward less popular ends, it would make more sense to focus on two std deviations from the norm and ignore the extremes of each side, leaving it up to national discourse to move the median in one direction or the other and have representatives literally just represent whatever the majority holds.