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[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did you read the rest of the article? It talks about how she talked with others in the company about this, someone above her took it very personally as suggesting he was racist, and her prompt firing. It also highlights how bungie was exposed for both racial and gender bias by reporting just a few months before she was hired, indicating that these exposed problems likely still existed.

I don't mean any harm when I say this, but why would you jump to the defense of a company in the first place, dismissing claims of racism or other forms of bigotry? The world is incredibly biased, and regular large-scale studies on company culture (and social culture) reveal widespread bigotry in our world. Simply assuming the status quo absent enough evidence on either side to clearly paint a picture is more often than not correct. What purpose does trying to discredit her accomplish here? How do you think it makes black people feel to see the only reply in a thread is an attempt at discrediting her?

[-] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Did you read the rest of the article? It talks about how she talked with others in the company about this, someone above her took it very personally as suggesting he was racist, and her prompt firing. It also highlights how bungie was exposed for both racial and gender bias by reporting just a few months before she was hired, indicating that these exposed problems likely still existed.

Yes. Her superiors disagreed that the supervisor needed diversity training just because that one person who received a bad review said he was being racially targeted. The article doesn’t say that she made any attempt to talk to that Black employee’s immediately coworkers. She just talked to him and decided the supervisor needed diversity training. So it’s not surprising that her supervisors reacted critically.

I don't mean any harm when I say this, but why would you jump to the defense of a company in the first place, dismissing claims of racism or other forms of bigotry? The world is incredibly biased, and regular large-scale studies on company culture (and social culture) reveal widespread bigotry in our world. Simply assuming the status quo absent enough evidence on either side to clearly paint a picture is more often than not correct. What purpose does trying to discredit her accomplish here? How do you think it makes black people feel to see the only reply in a thread is an attempt at discrediting her?

I’m not siding with the company. I’m siding with the employee who was treated like a racist because one person who may have been underperforming said he was without any further investigation. That’s ridiculous.

[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago

You seem to keep making a lot of assumptions about what happened, absent any evidence that it did. Why do you assume that she didn't make 'any attempt to talk to that Black employee's immediate coworkers'? Why do you assume she 'just talked to him'? Why do you assume there was no 'further investigation'?

We don't have any of this information. It's not fair to assume anything about whether they happened or not. Why are you making all of your assumptions in the direction of discrediting this individual? I might even suggest that if we must make assumptions, we should probably assume in the direction of what research shows about racism in the workplace and in our culture as a whole.

[-] SugarApplePie@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All the best workplaces that don't have a racism problem are the ones where lightly suggesting diversity training is met with hostility, denial, and sacking of the person suggesting it. Such actions really highlight how seriously said company takes concerns of bigotry at the workplace and proves they're giving it their all to make it as inclusive as possible.

I’m siding with the employee who was treated like a racist

Proving how incredibly not racist I am by taking incredible, personal offense at the suggestion of checking possible biases I may have as manager at a company with a history of racial biases, because I care about combating racism just that much

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 10 points 1 year ago

This isn't great though:

Notably, Alm was hired at Bungie just five months following an IGN report on the company’s work culture. In it, over 25 employees alleged the company had a history of allowing toxic culture to fester, including racial and gender bias, with those who reported such instances to HR alleging their reports were frequently dismissed or even turned against them. Following this report and prior to Alm’s hiring, Bungie’s former HR head stepped down from her role. IGN understands from its sources that following its 2021 report, Bungie also hired a number of new HR personnel in an effort to address the issues from the article, amid some pressure from its new parent company Sony.

[-] steakmeout@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

I’m siding with the employee who was treated like a racist because one person who may have been underperforming said he was without any further investigation.

It's so poignant that you tell on yourself with this statement.

[-] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago

Yikes the more you read down the article the more of a hole Bungie seems to dig.

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