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Israel's Defence Minister Yaov Gallant has ordered the complete closure of the Gaza Strip, including a ban on the entry of food, water, fuel or access to electricity as Israel intensifies its bombardment of the besieged Strip in the wake of the surprise attack by the Palestinian resistance. His comments have drawn criticism for advocating collective punishment of Gaza's entire civilian Palestinian population in breach of international law.


Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant ordered an increase in intensity of airstrikes in the Gaza Strip.

Gallant said that the war Israel is fighting against Hamas is “a war for our future.”

He added: “Exacting a heavy price from the enemy is a necessary condition for our existence in the region.”

Gallant makes the comments during a visit to the Israeli Air Force’s underground command centre at the Israeli occupation forces headquarters in Tel Aviv.

link: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231009-israeli-minister-we-are-fighting-human-animals/

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[-] ZenFriedRice@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago

Strange, terrorist organization don't seem to pop up in countries with better human rights.

[-] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a meaningless label. Who decided they were terrorists? You?

If killing civilians is the requirement to be terrorists, every single military on Earth is a terrorist organization. That's what war IS.

[-] ZenFriedRice@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Aye I was making my comment in part to humanize the people we call terrorists.

[-] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

As soon as I've seen your instance - your comment makes sense. Thanks for your opinion I guess lol.

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Out of curiosity, what results do you get when you search "US White supremacist militia"?

Those seem like terrorist organizations to me, and I think the U$ has better "human rights" than Gaza.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

The US has the largest system of prison slavery on earth, highly militarized police who kill with impunity, and world historical levels of wealth inequality, it's definitely not a good place for human rights.

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Sure, but I'm trying to carry the conversation on terms they'll understand.

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Better than gaza maybe, but I seriously hope that the US isn't your best example for a country with good human rights.

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Nah, I just thought it'd work as an example with them.

[-] ZenFriedRice@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You have a point. Though the US white supremesists haven't launched such organized and open assaults. So maybe it just scales with human rights abuses.

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago

The Oklahoma City bombing was a white supremacist action, I believe.

[-] ZenFriedRice@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

That's a mid counter argument imo.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

The USA has some of the worst human rights on earth, as evidenced by their massive prison population.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

They don't need to because cops can just flat out murder people off the streets. And brownshirts are a thing too they show up at protests to harass the strikers. Also they're not under an active genocide (as much as they try to feign that they are) so there isn't a lot of violence gas to go ham with.

[-] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

You have a point. Though the US white supremesists haven't launched such organized and open assaults. So maybe it just scales with human rights abuses.

US white supremacists genocided countless Indian tribes. They also rounded them up in reservations and then enforced policies designed to kill them. Look up the Trail of Tears sometime.

There's also the terror campaigns waged by the various Ku Klux Klans and other organizations against African-Americans.

If you want something more recent there's also the Tulsa race massacre. There's also the many, many deputy gangs in the US. Those launch organized and open assaults against other Americans all the time but they're also very distributed so we don't have one big incident to point to.

[-] Bread@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

They can pop up anywhere. Terrorism occurs when extremists of any type had enough of whatever they are upset about and it pushes them over the edge. Whether it is reasonable or not. Regular people can also be pushed to do terrible things with just the right amount of propaganda and other emotional manipulation. Some people just enjoy it.

Believing it cannot happen to you too with enough pressure and lies is wrong.

[-] ZenFriedRice@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have a good point I was a bit too black and white with my comment. There definitely seems to be a correlation between size and violence of terrorist groups, and the human rights of the area they riside in.

Also totally agree that it can happen to me. Gotta acknowledge that you don't really know anything and you are pretty much always just taking someone's word for things. I believe the Earth is round, but I'm just taking people's word for it.

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