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Why doesn't a third party just come up with a standard
Signal
Matrix. It’s far more open than signal.
True, however it's not as polished as Signal and not as noob friendly. I've been using Matrix daily for a couple years using Fluffychat and Element and not much has changed.
Unfortunately, no federated service will be as noob friendly as a centralised service.
It has made improvements although I agree it needs some more work in the ease of use department.
I can't agree. What is the thing that decentralized service cannot have?
Imagine theoretical Matrix client with Signal's UI and Signal's identity (phone number) resolution.
Phone number resolution is already a feature with identity servers but most servers don’t implement it.
Also have to choose a server increases the barrier of entry. I guess element works around that by defaulting to matrix.org although that’s not a great solution.
That's not a standard
Because the technical part has been solved for a while and this has moved into being a social problem. My kids only use iMessage/SMS for people over thirty, and use Snap with all of their friends. In family groups, you standardize on on whatever. Most of my extended family decided on FB Messenger a while ago (I don't participate, but my wife does and can fill me in.) My immediate family just uses iMessage. Friend groups I've seen generally do the same. They pick Telegram or WhatsApp or whatever, and then the quilting club just uses that. This also seems a very US centric issue - basically everywhere else is either on whatsapp or Line or WeChat or whatever.