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This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself.

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[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"history repeats itself" as in the people who only condemn needless killing when Hamas does it, but ignore the Palestinian cause the rest of the time.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's almost like motivation, methods, intentions, and circumstances matter and not just body count. For example, intentionally targeting civilians to maximize civilian deaths is not the same as accidentally killing civilians with collateral damage while trying to minimize civilian deaths.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When Israeli soldiers are bragging about raping and torturing people, it's very clear what their intentions are

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Source?

That's troubling if true, and if it is, do you believe said soldiers speak for the entire Israeli government? Hamas's atrocities are official policy.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 points 2 years ago

Hamas' official policy is resisting occupation and massacre, not committing it.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thanks for the link.

So one officer 7 years ago, who had the book thrown at him for his crimes by Israel. His actions are clearly opposed by his government and he was punished for his behavior. This isn't the smoking gun @matcha_addict was implying it is.

Do you think Hamas will punish its own rapists, murderers, and kidnappers?

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 2 points 2 years ago

Hamas is not a state or government. It is a militia to fight occupation. It is nowhere near as organized as Israel with its governing body. You cannot equate the two.

Israel does not oppose this. There are mountains of evidence of Israelis torturing and raping children, pregnant women and elderly Palestinians. There is mountains of evidence of Palestinians being burned alive, or forced to destroy their own homes with their bare hands. The magnitude of cruelty is unmatched.

Do you want more evidence? I am happy to provide. But it seems you reject it even when presented evidence.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

That's just one of countless examples from a two seconds of googling. It's the height of intellectual dishonesty to try and frame it as an isolated incident.