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Is there a picture of the actual junction?
this seems to be the spot (with the same car, lol)
edit: i think i found the problem too. look at it from this angle, the bike lane just disappears. like wtf?
WHO DESIGNED THIS?
This is obviously still designed as shit but I believe this is the intent!
https://media.cleanshot.cloud/media/67165/209GFODiC4HzKYjOwOxg0kN6inGVQml1ZPjqyfCe.jpeg?Expires=1689187732&Signature=JjDMqNJpws0OXaCYFlMS8szfm8lBMsJjZRCMvvgDll1JbT1Dl0X2SI7-jfX6OuxdPSBRZhANQszAO9AgG7NPycd0-qUgyr5U4Sla6ej0SuioD9N8w1SCkWjgQy-G926WkJHLZsg5y4pxcEPwqZBhjKNI-rBm6112DZicFkqC0GZj7Qm-f76oVKccbbJzStTqktcP-IIBDAex-4WOQUh-9o~DenId5VMA812NguGc1s1Lz092dsDp5fAXI8oFSE-TuGt48TpRNEdV68XtQ9rKoOOSJSj4dPzu41DfspjMPF3ohmeHyD7QnDJPQBSJNFj9evFox2lX~sHq9KDo7kgCOA__&Key-Pair-Id=K269JMAT9ZF4GZ
there is no bike lane on that side of the road though
(also, you can embed images with the
syntaxDo you go both ways on bike lanes? In Sweden I'd often go in the car lane but never against the flow of traffic
Thats how I embedded it, does it appear weird for you? I'm on kbin if that might be the problem
you forgot the exclamation mark from the front of your image embed. the syntax is kinda confusing,
[this is a link](image_url),also, i'm no expert in bike lanes, but it seems to me that the original idea here was that the bikes would go onto the wide sidewalk over here, but that doesn't seem to be very well-communicated. where i live (budapest) we have some sidewalk-bike lane combos, but they're marked, and when they're not, pedestrians have a priority and sidewalks can be frustrating for cyclists.
There is an exclamation mark in front of the image embed :S
https://media.cleanshot.cloud/media/67165/AusvK5nCamhjX93x3MKTlmGmrheExg8Nl6RJNsCc.jpeg?Expires=1689189710&Signature=OiYmPQv1u2R7dbSX82euZDckK0N~j4LSbrBeASKaJk33RGmP83nGvUumdC9NGTDtdCaedtIZFmC3cvJjonXQ0Xh0Qlg5HVFbGQeDHA6Dp-PxsIFy2fYZcs~sL-MMRJaJm1UgU1p2MALDeUoReIEJwC9X0SHMZkX5jcrNAA0rTKrAkWaE9FzjSLEEwBIjAt6EnrGwXksiJYOGxUIvPmTZa8sJbOBxPZAPVWCNSRi~5XRZqB8zqrpx8b-kjdkBskbzi2FThmWPrknCeuThGMoPii~yPMOo9VAs-MHQeS0k-08KIIx~rXMOO8tyRqPCCATyQJL6sW5swwsGf3Vx-8GUgg__&Key-Pair-Id=K269JMAT9ZF4GZ
weird, it looks like it works perfectly when i click through the fediverse link to your instance, but the exclamation mark is lost on my end. sorry, you were completely right from the beginning, kbin and lemmy just don't know how to talk to each other
Appreciate the help either way :)
It looks like a regular hyperlink, you need to tap it to see the picture. For embedded pictures you leave the alt text blank. Also no you stay on the same direction as cars. The problem is this bike crossing doesn't lead anywhere, there is no bike lane coming this direction. And you should typically ride to the right of cars but it might be ok to be on the other curb when it's a one-way street like this.
That's not necessary. I usually leave it in so visually impaired people know what the image is about
Thanks! I moved the alt-text, hope it works now!
The bike crossing leads to a bike lane going eastbound on E Broadway, it comes from a one way street with no bike-lane. It's on the wrong side since it's only for bikers turning left, bikers turning right will continue on the right shoulder of the lane.
Still dumb but the only real problem I have with it is that bikes are expected to cross 6 lanes of traffic going who knows how fast with no stop light.
Edit: added a few lines to the sketch in my earlier comment to better show what I'm meaning, maybe
The part that makes me feel least safe is the brief shared space with cars going between two bike lanes. To continue along the greenway from Victoria, you need to cross and do a ~50m stretch along Broadway, cars bearing down behind you. And the right turn off is not obvious - I missed it the first time I went. It's not at all clear where the path continues.
edit: fine, I suppose the un-controlled six-lane crossing is also pretty bad...
Yes, because bicycles sharing the lane with cars for random stretches works so well. No one's life is in danger here! /s
Cars can't actually drive down this road anymore. The only vehicle traffic allowed through this area is busses turning around and taking their breaks at the end of the line.
I guess you can technically access parts of this road through the alley way but there are definitely bollards up at the Broadway end and the other end is right turn only for busses. This area is not high vehicle traffic
The only arrow on there that looks intentful is the vertical blue arrow. Everything else is just regular stroad, and their threshold for a bicycle """way"" being unsafe is apparently when it starts perpendicularly crossing four lanes of traffic at once. And even then it only deserves a partial coat of paint ending in a 90° turn into a bicycle gutter.
That's not "designed", that'd be an insult to road design&engineering. That's a council member who took an exasperated sigh, angrily drew a straight line on a google earth printout, and said "now stop bothering me with this fucking cycling nonsense, I am already late for my kids' soccer match".