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[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Capitalism is a system where you die if nobody needs you to do anything. Nobody needing your help is supposed to be a good thing.

[-] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

That's incorrect, it's a system where you die if nobody wants you to do anything, which is a much lower threshold to clear given how many things can be delegated.

Like, you can make a living making art, which is not necessary but definitely something people want, if you're good at it.

[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

We need art. Art is what gives life meaning.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago
[-] Getawombatupya@aussie.zone 7 points 11 months ago

But it gives those who float through life without any practical purpose, purpose. You don't understand, man! It's just so deep.

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Probably why the Taliban banned music.

[-] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Lol no it's not, and I say it as an avid consumer of several different artforms.

Also, even then, you don't need a specific artist to make it for you, you can make art too.

The fact that art thrives in mercantilist and capitalist societies is a testament to the fact that want, and not need, drives the market.

[-] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

heh, for me that would be bitches 😎

*proceeds to get none*

[-] Cookiesandcreamclouds@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

May I remind you people spend thousands on furry art lol

[-] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That's my point. You don't need furry art to survive, nobody needs furry artists to make furry art, but people with surplus want them to, and that makes them thrive in a capitalist society.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Why is being useless a good thing, pls elaborate

[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Cause it means all the work is already being done and there's enough to go around and meet everyone's needs.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

That's a terrible behavior to enable, that's like exactly the opposite of what we want

[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

No, we want everyone to have enough, and to be able to take it easy when the work is done. We don't want people forced to work when it isn't helpful.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Work is always helpful, that's why it exists

[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Work isn't always helpful. If my partner got out of bed to clean the dishes or vacuum the floor at 3AM I'd be very cranky. Sometimes work is bad.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

...bro it's cause you said 3am in this example, think this through.

[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

You said work is always helpful. What do you think always means?

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

idk if you're trolling or not, but if you think doing the dishes or vacuuming is not helpful, or is bad, then I'm scared to see your living space.

[-] Cookiesandcreamclouds@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I can't work due to a disability, am I useless?

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago
this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2023
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