‘Proportional representation will lead to better politics’, Labour conference told (leftfootforward.org)

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The only justification for not doing this is protectionism. Starmer is placing party above country. We can see how damaging the Tories are. I do not want to see their likes again.

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[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I used to agree. But over the years i have seen any value totally troubced by party politics.

Few local citizens have any real representation willing to listen under fptp today of much in the last 20 or so years.

STV or others may improove that with multi MPs. But its hard to see we are lossing anything real with the current system.

Any improovement need different pilitical motive then we have now. MPs think of representation as soldiers in a war. Ready to be sacrificed for the party line. Or there ow. Career. We need politicians who stand for local ideals first. Then party based on those local voters will.

Sorry late rant got me there

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure that argues against MMPR that I'm advocating.

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago

Given the comment I replyed to.

I think lack of local MPs is a legitimate criticism of pure PR.

I have no idea why you would think it was. I was arguing local representation dose not really exist in FPTP as it is envissanged,

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago

I'm arguing that local MPs are worth having, but FPTP is unrepresentative. With MMPR you get the best of both worlds.

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