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The Lemmy.World Terms of Service now in effect (legal.lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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Hello World!

We've made some changes today, and we'd like to announce that our Code of Conduct is no longer in effect. We now have a new Terms of Service, in effect starting from today(October 19, 2023).

The "LAST REVISION DATE:" on the page also signifies when the page was last edited, and it is updated automatically. Details of specific edits may be viewed by following the "Page History" reference at the bottom of the page. All significant edits will also be announced to our users.

The new Terms of Service can be found at https://legal.lemmy.world/

In this post our community mods and users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World. We hope to discuss and inform constructively and in good faith.

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[-] PurpleReign@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

5.0.4: Do not post illegal content of any type. Do not engage in any activity that may encourage, facilitate or provide access to illegal transactions. Do not share or encourage the sharing of abusive or sexually suggestive content involving minors. Any violent or otherwise inappropriate behavior involving a minor will also always be strictly prohibited.

5.0.4 seems to be in conflict with the existence of !piracy. I'm not complaining about its existence, just mentioning that it seems to be a conflict.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

"Illegal content of any type" is an incredibly thorny concept. Illegal where? Where the poster is? Where lemmy.world is hosted? Within some nebulous consensus of Western nations? Only the US states that matter, excluding Wyoming and Montana?

It's illegal to be gay in Saudi Arabia or Uganda. Is gay content not allowed? Switchblades are illegal in California but not in neighboring Oregon. Am I not allowed to talk about switchblades? It's illegal to export strong encryption technologies from the US. Am I not allowed to talk about encryption? Etc., etc., etc.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It was quoted just a bit above you, dude:

7.0: The website and the agreement will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and the Republic of Finland Suomen.

[-] _ffiresticks_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I'd argue "transaction" implies an exchange... If you pirate content you either are giving something freely, and receiving nothing, or are receiving something while giving nothing.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

If you're not a leeching piece of shit (like I am) then technically torrenting IS a transaction

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

like I am

Machine... I will cut you down, break you apart, splay the gore of your profane form across the STARS! I will grind you down until the very SPARKS CRY FOR MERCY! My hands shall RELISH ENDING YOU... HERE! AND! NOW!

It was hard to decide whether to post this copy-pasta or just 'you fuck'

This whole comment is /j, I don't care that much

[-] Delta_44@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Heh, wait until you remember that if you block outcoming traffic it will be hard to download something at a decent speed (unless there are a lot of peers)

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

What you argue is less relevant than the legal definition in the Netherlands.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 year ago

Does !piracy@lemmy.world exist? If it does I can't find it.

[-] TheGreatFox@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Technically exists, but has been inactive for months. The active piracy communities are !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !piracy@lemmy.ml - neither of which are hosted by lemmy.world.

[-] PurpleReign@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, it does. Click that link again now.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Those communities aren’t hosted on lemmy.world and therefore not subject to its terms.

edit: if I’m not mistaken, those communities (or the instances they’re hosted on) have been banned from lemmy.world, so if you’re logged in as a lemmy.world user, you cannot see them anyway.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think they were recently refederated.

[-] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Correct.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

huh, interesting

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

in my country only uploading is illegal, not downloading so not necessarily.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What matters is the laws in the location of the server and/or the person who owns the domain and runs the site.

And the terms explicitly state which location whose laws it believes they fall under:

The website and the agreement will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and the Republic of Finland Suomen