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Logically, this makes the most sense for a decisions. Politically, I don't think it does. If Democrats come out of this with the speakership, stupid Americans (and republican "news" media) will blame the Democrats for not getting anything done, despite the Republicans still controlling the majority.
Leaving them floundering makes them look weak and incompetent. It is painful in the short term for Americans, but it may be better in the long term as the Republicans fall apart. Let them show their true colors to the American people and then let them decide what happens next.
This won't end up with Jeffries being Speaker, unless five or six Republicans decide to leave the party. As much as Jeffries wants to be Speaker, he wants to do it after getting a Democratic majority, and doesn't want to set the precedent that a minority party member could snag the position.
However, they could set the precedent that when the majority party doesn't have a functional majority, the minority party can help pick a member of the Majority that is more amenable to listening to them now and then.
Unfortunately, this ineptitude will never affect a large portion of their support. House Democrats and Biden are already positioned for blame by far-right media. Ignorant arguments like Democrats helped remove McCarthy or Biden can't get anything done abound.
Simultaneously, some on the far-right are actually happy that the house is dysfunctional because they see it as a way to stop spending increases or block other legislation. It's a very similar position that got Trump elected, where the goal for many was simply disruption, because they've been convinced that the government is constantly working against their interests.
It doesn't need to. The small amount that are somewhat able to be convinced are the ones to look for