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Stop asking everyone to condemn Hamas
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Nobody is saying you can't. Read the article.
It's somewhat misleading to call one side of a war a 'terrorist organisation' though. That's not really how war works.
Are you shitting me? The group that has the destruction of Israel in their founding charter and that massacred more than 1000 civilians is just a regular war party? They are fucking war criminals according to International Humanitarian Law.
You understand how many civilians Israel has massacred this week?
Both sides have committed war crimes but Israels are more numerous even if we talk about the current conflict and ignore the past decades of torture, cruelty and invasions.
Having said that, there's been an acceptance of war crimes recently since America committed a lot.
So you claim that Israel deliberately targeted the civilians in the same way Hamas did?
If Hamas or Islamic Jihad have their launch sites anywhere close or in civilian structures, those structures become legitimate military targets. Civilians have to get protected as good as possible, but not at any cost. The attacker only has to make sure that civilian deaths are not „excessive“ compared to the achieved military advantage. So valid military targets can be pretty much ANY civilian structure, if the structure is abused by the enemy. Abusing civilian structures, like putting launch sites close or into Schools, Hospitals or similar, makes those usually protected structures military targets.
And no - I do not like that - but it is war after all - and this is International Humanitarian Law.
So many things you probably consider war crimes, because civilians died in a Israeli attack against Hamas, are no war crimes. The only criminals in this equation is Hamas. Hamas started this war and also brought those attacks on the Palestinian people.
They are trying to eliminate Gaza. They have openly said that. They are purposely trying to kill every single civilian.
Yes the war is being fought from a populated area because Israel have created a tiny ghetto where everyone is living toe to tail. There is no nice rural area they can go to here, they've been kettled in.
You have a complete misunderstanding on what constitutes a war crime and a misunderstanding of the war currently ongoing. This is an occupied nation trying to fight back against generations of war crimes.
Israeli war crimes have their own wiki page and it is long - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_war_crimes_against_Israel
That's a biiiiig claim. Big claims like that need big evidence to back them up. Unfortunately, I'm unable to find what quote you're referring to. There's a lot going on and most generic searches return fairly basic news sources. Care to specify exactly what you are referring to?
Have you not been following this? They've announced their intentions to eliminate gaza followed by cutting off food and water to the area and refusing to let people leave. They've then started systematic bombing from north to south. The very north is flattened already. All residents dead if they didn't move south.
This is genocide.
Just noting that if arguing with Zionists feels particularly mind-numbing, this is one of the reasons:
https://medium.com/dfrlab/how-a-political-astroturfing-app-coordinates-pro-israel-influence-operations-bf1104fa5c7f
I saw a doc about this earlier in the year. It is ridiculous. A lot of the people to talk to seem to be totally uneducated on the conflict but full of Israeli talking points.