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Yocheved Lifshitz, one of two hostages recently freed by Hamas, has described her ordeal after being kidnapped by the Palestinian militant group in the brazen October 7 attack, saying she “went through hell.”

With her daughter kneeling by the side of her wheelchair, the frail 85-year-old grandmother on Tuesday recalled the moment she was abducted by gunmen on motorbikes after militants broke into her home in the kibbutz Nir Oz.

“It was difficult but we will get through this,” Lifshitz told reporters at a news conference at the Tel Aviv hospital where she has been recovering since being freed.

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hamas action makes it really hard to argue with pro-israel people.

Hamas's actions prove that the pro-Israel people don't know what they're talking about. The "tough on Palestine" position hasn't worked, doesn't work and will never work. To quote something I saw around here, "free Palestine" is the correct response to a tragedy that wouldn't have happened if Palestine was free.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The "tough on Palestine" position hasn't worked, doesn't work and will never work.

I agree with this. What I think Palestinians need to accept, regardless of whatever historical justification is used, is that violent military resistance to Israel also has not and never will work. The only thing with any possible chance is both sides accepting a need to co-exist with the other, something neither side has expressed much interest in between Israeli settlements and Hamas rockets.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

something neither side has expressed much interest in between Israeli settlements and Hamas rockets.

Just gonna mention that both the PNA and Hamas tried many times in the last 30 years. The PNA had the Oslo accords, the 2000 camp David summit and the 2013, Hamas signed ceasefires in Israel in 2008 and 2012. Additionally both created a short-lived united government (a very important step towards peace) in 2013 that Israel fought every step of the way. While who was at fault in the Camp David summit is a matter of debate, the others Israel was unequivocably the one at fault.

"Palestinians don't want peace" is basically Israeli propaganda now, and basically ignores the fact that the PNA, which controls the West Bank, has denounced violence for the past 30 years.

[-] Thagor@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Also one of the problems is that both PNA and Hamas are massively corrupt and not interested in actually improving the lot of ordinary Palestinians.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

While I don't trust any non-democratically elected government to actually prioritize their citizens, especially not one in the middle East, there's also just not much they can do. Gaza is a ghetto under blockade and the West Bank is a Buntustan. It's Israel who holds all the power and they're very much happy with the current situation.

[-] Thagor@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

How about they don’t line pockets and care for their people, Hamas are criminals. Its a sad reality that none of the involved parties care about palestine people.

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