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Throw this magoo into prison.
When she gets to court she'll have to give testimony consistent with the sworn statement she must have given to prosecutors as a part of the deal she got. If she contradicts it in her testimony in actual court, perjury, and indeed jail. So either she gives her damming testimony against trump accurately, or perjures herself and goes to jail, win win.
She can lie all she wants in social media, but if she tries to pull this in court, yeah it'll be jail.
They should all be in prison though.
I do wonder if the defense can cross using her many countering media statements after pleading, to insert doubt in the jury.
Seems like a smart play on her part, if she can’t be punished for public statements. She can honor the letter of the plea, but provide a mountain of countering public statements.
Would be easy for the prosecutor to counter though. All they would have to ask if the defense brought them up would be "Were those statements you made in public truthful?" If she lies and says yes, they have a sworn statement from her to the contrary already, so perjury, in addition to plea deal being off for not testifying truthfully. I can't imagine prosecutors accepted a plea deal without a sworn statement with some sort of information valuable to the case including her admitting her role. I think the only smart play for her would be to slink into the shadows, testify truthfully when the trial comes, and distance herself from the whole debacle feeling lucky she got out with no jail time.
Unsure. The MAGA players are true believers, and all of right-wing media will be pushing jury nullification by the time of the actual trial. Even if she follows the letter of the plea agreement, the introduction of countering statements by the defense could be enough to convince a nutty juror with nullification beaten into their head by Hannity and Facebook to pull the trigger in the jury room.