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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are those massive silencers on the end or something else?

Never seen a rifle that large before.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Could also be massive muzzle brakes. That rifle must kick like a horse on five different kinds of steroids.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

A muzzle brake is not a closed cylinder. There would also be no reason to make it that long.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

yeah, I'm European, I don't know shit about guns

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I have to ask: You are aware that you have no idea what you are talking about, yet you felt the need to answer him? Can you explain why? This is an extremely common thing for people to do, so it is very interesting to hear (if possible) what your train of thought was.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure that beating up on someone who decides to say that they aren't familiar with something and are retracting an earlier suggestion is a good idea. Seems likely to lead to people not retracting things even when they think that they might not be correct.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I simply want to understand the thought process. I appreciate that they acknowledge it to begin with.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

It's a fucking joke, mate. Me being European has nothing to do with my knowledge of firearms. A muzzle brake is a fair guess, so is a WWII-era heat sink. But, I guess you know guns better than I do, congratulations. You really owned me.

Untwist your pantalettes.

[-] CrowAirbrush@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Since we're all going off what is visible and nothing more: the outer bits seem to be fabric, maybe those are dirt covers?

[-] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Suppressors tend to get very hot very quickly. This produces a mirage effect when looking through the scope. Wraps made of high temperature materials help mitigate that and also allow the shooter to remove the suppressor without having to wait until it cools down.

[-] ours@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

They are suppressors (a.k.a. silencers). They work just like your car's muffler and both were invented by the same guy: the grandson of the inventor of the Maxim machine gun.

It will certainly not make these monster guns movie-quiet but it reduces their massive sound and flash signature making it harder to locate where they were shot from.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They work just like your car's muffler and both were invented by the same guy: the grandson of the inventor of the Maxim machine gun.

Well that's a cool TIL.

[-] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Flash suppressors. Snipers are very high-value targets.

[-] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

Certainly looks that way. As if it wasn't big enough already. In most pictures I have seen they have only muzzle brakes, but in some they clearly have suppressors. A useful side-effect may be to reduce the visible muzzle fire for night operation.

[-] dill@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

Flash hiders maybe? Idk

[-] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[-] alehc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] kboy101222@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

"Silencer" is the older and frankly BS term. Silencers don't silence anything outside of video games and movies. They more "suppress" the noise and muffle it a bit.

Basically it's the difference of firing it outside and having your ears ring forever or just for a long time

[-] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's not a BS term it is the patented term used by Percy Maxim when he invented it.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US916885

[-] kboy101222@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Fair enough, but it when most people hear the name, they expect what they see in media and not what it is in real life

[-] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They make nothing silent, it's a false term

[-] Shaolinraiden@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago
[-] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 1 year ago

weight — 6.9 kg

That's quite a suppressor.

Compare to an M4 carbine, the current US issue rifle (not a suppressor on an M4, but the whole weapon):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine

6.43 lb (2.92 kg) empty[4]

7.75 lb (3.52 kg) with 30 rounds and sling

[-] Shaolinraiden@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Holy crap that's a good point. My current AR setup is 8.2lbs fully done up. That's a huge can.

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