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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 243 points 1 year ago

This “not a democracy, a republic” crap is becoming more and more popular on the right. They’re not even trying to hide the authoritarianism and fascism any more. They’re now openly saying they don’t support democracy.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 125 points 1 year ago

It's literally "democracy = Democrats" and "a republic = republican" to them, simple as.

The Democrats should rename themselves the "Freedom Liberty" party just to fuck with em. Take back some of their words.

[-] norbert@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

This is great, call it the Patriot Party or something and talk about how government waste has turned "Citizens On Patrol" into a bunch of lazy, freedom-suppressing, union members.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago

A republic is a type of democracy. This guy is an idiot. 

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 year ago

No, republic just means that the role of head of state isn't hereditary. Lots of dictatorships are republics, some democracies are as well. The actual political system of the USA is representative democracy (in theory at least).

The fact that these terms are so muddled in the minds of the average American is completely deliberate, because it makes it so much easier for them to subvert US democracy when people have been told that the US is not one.

[-] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

There are a couple definitions. One I’ve heard most is a republic has a citizen as head of state, which disqualifies both monarchies and military dictatorships. Another is that the head of state is elected or nominated, which disqualifies non-representative systems entirely.

[-] LudwigvanBeethoven@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

republic /rɪˈpʌblɪk/ noun a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

from one of those Oxford ones

[-] checksout@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

I just looked it up and did not find a concise definition. According to the German bpb even dictatorships can be republics.

https://www.bpb.de/kurz-knapp/lexika/lexikon-in-einfacher-sprache/250057/republik/

[-] joseangel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily, North Korea is technically a republic.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 17 points 1 year ago

No, it's not. They have a hereditary head of state who enforces his rule with control of the military.

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is why it is technically a republic, but not in practice. The constitution says it is a republic, and they actually have an election for the role of head of state, well "election", but of course in practice that is not how it works at all.

The US is also technically a representative democracy, but in practice, well...

I'm saying it's just a lying monarchy.

A pile of shit isn't a rose because you call it a rose. You're just lying.

[-] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

You both are saying the same thing. Wake up.

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired. We are in agreement, you are just a moron who can't read.

Also I am not lying, I am stating facts.

It's not "technically" a republic because it has a hereditary ruling line. Period.

You weirdly angry goon.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who was the third head of state again? (Hint, it isnt Kim Jung Un)

Well cited effortpost on hexbear about the dprk: https://hexbear.net/post/196389

[-] joseangel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Now I see what they got defederilized from Lemmy, so much blatant malinformation.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

They literally are federated with the main lemmy instance.

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It's not just a Republic its a people's Republic.

So you know like way better. That's why they don't need elections it already says it belongs to the people

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The hand job place near me is also technically a foot job place.

Yeah, they really should pop open one of those dictionaries – if they know what those are – and look at the definition of republic.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Some grade 9 ass shit. A republic IS a democratic structure of government. It's representative democracy.

[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I think what they're getting at is that majority does not neccesarily rule in the US. You can have an election where a majority of voters go one way but the electoral college (your representation) goes another.

Idk why they want to harp on that right now but whatever.

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