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freedom isnt free
You're not getting the freedom you think you are with gun violence.
I'd rather be "free" in Canada without the $2000 and mounting medical bills I'm dealing with here in #1.
I've got $10,000. I got air medivacced to a hospital where I have no coverage.
That really sucks. I'm very sorry to hear it.
Owning guns doesn't make you free dipshit. You and your militia buddies could do fuck all if the government decides to oppress you for real.
Vietnam and Afghanistan beg to differ.
That was a combination of guns, explosives, and widespread military and civilian resistance in an area that the United States doesn’t feel a need to hold. Armed resistance in Iowa went very differently
Your argument is weak when the end results of both wars were the same: while one side had overwhelming numbers of tactically trained fighters with advanced equipment, advanced technology and a government supporting with infinite money, the other side won anyways and was simply a bunch of fucking farmers with AKs.
The Vietnamese peasants and afghans were using more than just guns and the reason the US left wasn’t failure but loss of will to expend resources. The Vietnamese people elected Ho Chi Minh and resisted colonialism. The afghan people resisted colonialism at every turn. The American empire didn’t seem to hold either land, just to turn it over to an allied government.
No amount of violence will cause the United States to cede shit. The closest to what you’re talking about is stuff like Harlan County. But remember the civil war too
I’m all for arming ourselves but without delusion. Once you shoot a cop or soldier you’re dead. Maybe it’s worth it, maybe it isn’t, but be aware.
You don't know what freedom is if you think freedom is what you get in the USA.
I think you'll be surprised that I've already emigrated, and am happier
#1 gun violence
#1 healthcare spending per capita
#1 murder rate for rich countries
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Interesting you mention "rich countries." Oddly enough, 2% of US counties account for 51% of the murder rate. Those 2% of counties happen to be some of the poorest areas in the entire country. Turns out wealth inequality is actually a pretty high contributing factor to a lot of things, not only "one of which is violent crime regardless of weapon type," but even "that and wealth inequality contributes to other things that also contribute to violent crime." Matroska style.
Sure, every once in a while someone Chris Benoits their family, (or since he didn't use guns should I say they Benjamin Glenn Hoffmann some people), but the vast majority of murders are not family annhialators or mass shooters, the vast majority are all related to socioeconomic issues and litterally dudes like O-Block, or PIRU, or GD, or SUR13, etc.
#1 in what, exactly, other than gdp? By the way, China has the second biggest gdp, so it’s really not a good measure of how a country ranks in terms of freedom or happiness of its people.
I’ll patiently wait for an answer that I am sure you will provide.
Give me one shooter accident like this one that happened within the EU in the last decades, then.
I once had a guy on twitter tell me that that every country in Europe has daily mass stabbings that are just as dangerous.
These people will trip over themselves to justify keeping their guns so they can play soldier on the weekend. Dead kids be damned.
Fair enough. But still, if we compare the amount of accidents, USA is way higher than any county in the EU. And most importantly, when something like this happens, there are at least attempts to apply stricter regulations or other means necessary to prevent it from happening again, while the USA doesn't do shit.
hmmm..... no. You're either misinformed or talking in bad faith.