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[-] kleenbhole@lemy.lol 10 points 1 year ago

Isn't it interesting that tons of people own guns in America and DON'T shoot people? Or the fact that we had crazy people and assault weapons previously without mass shootings.

Looking at these issues as if they're either-or is ridiculous. Of course you're going to need a multivariate approach. You're not going to get rid of the guns, and you're not going to get rid of crazy people. We need to address gun laws, mental health laws, and societal collapse overall. There's no singular approach that will fix everything.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

ah the pro-gun weirdo lemmings have come out once again.

[-] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

If you go far enough left you get your gun rights back

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

ah the fucking horsesh~~oe~~it theory.

no you don't, the only purpose of guns is to kill someone, that is not very respectful of their bodily autonomy, is it?

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

You're stopping short on the "kill all landlords" scale, there

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Do a search to find out who said the following:

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”

[-] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

the only purpose of guns is to kill someone, that is not very respectful of their bodily autonomy, is it?

Yes, if they aren't respecting your rights, they have forfeited theirs

[-] rengoku2@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just wipe out the guns and no more school shootings, stupid.

No annual school shooting is Indonesia, Malaysia, Japan, China, Hongkong, Australia and people like you still defend it.

So retarded view. Go more left till nothing's right.

[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Okay, how? Are you signing up to go door to door?

[-] rengoku2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Sign the law, order everyone to surrender or face imprisonment. See, that is easy.

So many excuses thrown around.

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Will you volunteer to go collect guns from people?

[-] rengoku2@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who says collecting door to door again? Reading comprehension

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Are you that naive? I am saying that is an inevitability.

When people refuse to surrender weapons, what do you suppose the step after that is? Arresting someone for not turning in their weapon; which will lead to several violent encounters. This will create additional loss of life, and I thought that was the problem we need to solve.

[-] rengoku2@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Then do it. Few losses here and there than perpetual cycle of deaths, naive guy.

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m not going to go around collecting weapons from people door to door, and it’s beyond fucked up to try to force someone else to do that. Anyone that suggests for someone else to put their life in danger should be compelled to do the same. You sound like a fucking psycho.

[-] rengoku2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Nah no. If you are weak, say so.

[-] antik@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Australia did it. This really is an American problem

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Australia didn’t have a hole as deep either.

[-] antik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Your reasoning for not removing the guns is that it will lead to gun violence. You think they are going to knock on your door? If it ever would come to that, if laws get changed and having assault rifles becomes outlawed I imagine you would get a few 'friendly requests' to bring them in - just like they did in Australia. If you still don't - you're a criminal and should be treated accordingly. I'm sure the government can handle a few nuts with guns who they don't want to give up.

This will create additional loss of life, and I thought that was the problem we need to solve.

There'll be less blood than a few weeks of school shootings.

But keep making up new problems

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

If you still don’t - you’re a criminal and should be treated accordingly.

You're almost there... what do you think the implications of this statement are? How does the US treat criminals? What does the US do to pursue and arrest criminals? Shit... how does the US treat mis-identified people asleep in their own beds during no-knock raids?

Keep working your way through this, you might actually get there!

There’ll be less blood than a few weeks of school shootings.

And now you're making up outcomes.

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That's just a fantasy, and it's impossible.

[-] rengoku2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[-] kleenbhole@lemy.lol 0 points 1 year ago
this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2023
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